6.5 CM as a hunting cartridge... why?

[MTLabrador]

Damnit. That’s a good idea.

New plan…

Mine has lots of sentimental value, it was my first centerfire rifle and it’s killed a lot of deer. She’ll get upgraded to handle the heavy bullets one of these days.

 

[Carl]

I keep looking at EuroOptic and the 1:8 twist .22-250 T3x stainless. Just a little tickle tickle with a reamer and probably a new mag…

I’ve gone back and forth between that route, and selling the barrel and replacing with a custom. The cost difference isn’t much.

 

[ismith]

I'm waiting for the 17 Creedmore Ackley Improved with the new special alloy steel case using the new Tungsten Barnes X bullets. It's basically a plasma rifle.

 

[Elktrack]

I'm waiting for the 17 Creedmore Ackley Improved PCR with the new special alloy steel case using the new Tungsten Barnes X bullets. It's basically a plasma rifle.

Fixed it for you.

 

[TheJason]

Fixed it for you.

17 Creedmore Ackley Improved PCR with the new special alloy steel case

I think you meant to refer to the Precision Rifle Cartridge, not polymerase chain reaction, right?

 

[Elktrack]

Yep!
That’s what I get for being a smart arse.
Clearly I don’t pay attention to the wiz bang crap enough

 

[Justabirdwatcher]

You keep saying this. Start naming them.

There’s not a gnat’s arse practical difference between them, save ammo availability.

Since hunting is about throwing chunks of metal toward game at high velocities, if you have even an elementary school knowledge of the principles of math and physics, you should be able to sort this out yourself.

But since you asked, for marginally more recoil, the 7mm-08 can handle a wider range of bullets that are also high in BC and throw them at higher velocities. For hunting typical game such as mule deer, whitetails, pronghorn, sheep and even elk, it is a better choice in every way until and unless you have someone who 1) has a severely low recoil tolerance and 2) can even tell the difference in recoil between the two (most people can't). But of course, because of better marketing that has so many people under the age of 50 thinking the 6.5 CM is capable of incredible things, the round does now have a better factory ammo selection. So I'll give it that.

 

[mtmuley]

Since hunting is about throwing chunks of metal toward game at high velocities, if you have even an elementary school knowledge of the principles of math and physics, you should be able to sort this out yourself.

But since you asked, for marginally more recoil, the 7mm-08 can handle a wider range of bullets that are also high in BC and throw them at higher velocities. For hunting typical game such as mule deer, whitetails, pronghorn, sheep and even elk, it is a better choice in every way until and unless you have someone who 1) has a severely low recoil tolerance and 2) can even tell the difference in recoil between the two (most people can't). But of course, because of better marketing that has so many people under the age of 50 thinking the 6.5 CM is capable of incredible things, the round does now have a better factory ammo selection. So I'll give it that.

I don't have a 6.5 Creed and will not be getting into the Creed game in any cartridge. But, thanks Karen. mtmuley

 

[Forkyfinder]

Since hunting is about throwing chunks of metal toward game at high velocities, if you have even an elementary school knowledge of the principles of math and physics, you should be able to sort this out yourself.

But since you asked, for marginally more recoil, the 7mm-08 can handle a wider range of bullets that are also high in BC and throw them at higher velocities. For hunting typical game such as mule deer, whitetails, pronghorn, sheep and even elk, it is a better choice in every way until and unless you have someone who 1) has a severely low recoil tolerance and 2) can even tell the difference in recoil between the two (most people can't). But of course, because of better marketing that has so many people under the age of 50 thinking the 6.5 CM is capable of incredible things, the round does now have a better factory ammo selection. So I'll give it that.

The difference between 7mm08 and 6.5 creedmoor amounts to two dry popcorn farts.

 

[Hammsolo]

So this is something I noticed the first time I shot my buddy's 6.5 CM which is the first rifle I'd ever fired one out of. That was a fairly heavy rifle. At least 8.5 lbs. And I wasn't impressed at all by what I had been convinced was a "low recoil" round. Like you said, I could barely tell the difference between that 6.5 CM and my 7mm-08 or .308. This is one reason I asked this question in the first place. If there was a whole bunch of hunters who were turned off by the recoil of the 7mm-08 or .308 or even the .260, I guess I could understand everyone turning to the 6.5 CM. But I just don't see that much difference in recoil. At least, not enough to justify the sales of the 6.5

We have to go back to old wood 06’s with red rubber butt pads to toughen up this generation. If an 08 has too much recoil for someone they probably shouldn’t be hunting big game, not referring to you Birdwatcher.

 

[Potsie]

I'm waiting for the 17 Creedmore Ackley Improved with the new special alloy steel case using the new Tungsten Barnes X bullets. It's basically a plasma rifle.

You gonna +P that? Should add another 100 - 150 fps.

 

[TN2shot07]

Since hunting is about throwing chunks of metal toward game at high velocities, if you have even an elementary school knowledge of the principles of math and physics, you should be able to sort this out yourself.

But since you asked, for marginally more recoil, the 7mm-08 can handle a wider range of bullets that are also high in BC and throw them at higher velocities. For hunting typical game such as mule deer, whitetails, pronghorn, sheep and even elk, it is a better choice in every way until and unless you have someone who 1) has a severely low recoil tolerance and 2) can even tell the difference in recoil between the two (most people can't). But of course, because of better marketing that has so many people under the age of 50 thinking the 6.5 CM is capable of incredible things, the round does now have a better factory ammo selection. So I'll give it that.

I have two 7-08’s in the safe right now and no creedmoor. I can tell you that factory ammo options are not even close and they aren’t exactly working to develop the newest options for the 7-08. That has to be taken into account, more people buy factory ammunition than reload

 

[mtmuley]

We have to go back to old wood 06’s with red rubber butt pads to toughen up this generation. If an 08 has too much recoil for someone they probably shouldn’t be hunting big game, not referring to you Birdwatcher.

The kid bought two 7-08's from a friend that needed the cash. Haven't got into them yet but we will. In the mean time the .270 will continue on. mtmuley

 

[The Hedgehog]

7-08 is a dynamite cartridge. Love mine. Insignificantly different for hunting than the 6.5cm I would think.

 

[kodiakisland]

Snowed in for the weekend?

Who gives a crap what others kill stuff with. Next year I will be giving the .250 a rest and using a 38-55 and a suppressed 6mm ARC for all my whitetail hunting. They will be just as dead as the .250 or 7-08 or 280AI or whatever else I choose to use.

Do some states have restrictions on how many rifles a guy can own?

My daughter has a WBY Camilla in 6.5CM. Next time she kills something with it I'll ask her if she's retarded or something.

 

[ismith]

You gonna +P that? Should add another 100 - 150 fps.

Proprietary powder

 

[Justabirdwatcher]

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The difference between 7mm08 and 6.5 creedmoor amounts to two dry popcorn farts.

You did all that just to try and prove to a complete stranger the difference between two popcorn farts?

This trend toward hunting larger and larger game with smaller and smaller cartridges is a little mind boggling to me. The thing I want to ask every 6.5 CM advocate is this, is that the upper limit of recoil you can tolerate? If so, then good for you that you have the cartridge. If not, why even bother with it? What is the advantage it offers?

 

[Justabirdwatcher]

I have two 7-08’s in the safe right now and no creedmoor. I can tell you that factory ammo options are not even close and they aren’t exactly working to develop the newest options for the 7-08. That has to be taken into account, more people buy factory ammunition than reload

I did mention that. Marketing killed the 7mm-08 just like marketing sold the 6.5 CM to a whole bunch of people who would have been better off with the former.

 

[ismith]

7-08 is a dynamite cartridge. Love mine. Insignificantly different for hunting than the 6.5cm I would think.

It’s basically a dollar store Creed for people who aren’t cool enough to have one of these.

 

[TheJason]

if you have even an elementary school knowledge of the principles of math and physics, you should be able to sort this out yourself.

If you have even an elementary school knowledge of physiology, you should be able to recognize the differences don’t amount to anything when it comes to making a wound channel in an animal, but do carry on.