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Ozempic face is a real thing.Like the last shot big pharma pushed on us we really don't know the long term affects so I'll pass. If you're taking it to lose weight and are barfing in the trash can it might be a sign...
Now the old "Show em' your o-face" line has a whole new meaning
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Pause.From what I understand....
This makes sense to me. The human metabolism is really adaptable. Muscle is expensive tissue so if your calories are too low and activity is too high, you’ll store body fat and actually lose muscle. Endurance training also isn’t great for the physique for this reason, your body will generally pair down muscle to be more efficient.It is tempting when even at my most fit rucking across Afghanistan, spending hours a day in the gym, and eating next to nothing, I still couldn’t shake the spare tire around my middle. But it just seems like too much of deal with the devil to go on these meds.
Nobody cares work harderMy opinion is the obesity crisis around the entire world is caused by the constant pussification of society. It's too hard for people to practice self-control or discipline, and too hard to enact the change they want by dedicating themselves to physical activity and a healthy diet. It is now on par to being a racist, sexist, etc. to make any statement about someone else's weight being unhealthy, you will even get called a bigot if your preference in a partner is someone who stays in shape. And I'm not talking the guys who have NO FATTIES stickers on their truck, just someone who prefers a partner that is physically active. Society's general wokeness has led to a collapse of healthcare as all these morbidly obese people clog it up with the countless health issues they cause themselves. As for the weight loss drugs? If it works for them, great, but using it strictly as weight loss drug because you lack the willpower or content of character to make changes for yourself, thereby reducing the amount of the drugs available to those who actually need it, is pretty deplorable to me.
If you’re asking for a friend, compounding pharmacies are cheaper.A NYT article today on GLP-1s (Ozympic, Zepbound, Mounjaro, Wegovy, etc) has me curious what the HT community thinks about these new, extremely expensive, weight loss drugs. The thrust of the article was that obesity doctors would like to be able to prescribe these drugs, but without a diagnosis of diabetes, people who are pre-diabetic or right on the line are unable to afford these drugs. Basically, in order to get access to them, people need to be even less healthy. In classic American fashion, it would seem that we'd rather fix the problem when it is too late than try to prevent it from happening in the first place.
I'm close personally with someone with Type 2 Diabetes, so their insurance has been able to cover a Mounjaro prescription. From what they've told me, the real miracle of these drugs is that they reduce appetite, cravings, and seem to alter the mental health piece of eating disorders. Basically, this person reports that they aren't thinking about food all the time.
As someone whose weight fluctuates dramatically (50-60 lbs a year), I keep coming back to how nice that must be. Every diet/exercise plan I've tried has worked for about 6 months, but after elk season, the weight always piles back on. When I am on those plans, it starts to feel like every waking moment of my life is spent thinking about calories and food, and I'm hungry all the time. It's not a fun way to live.
I reached out to a friend of mine who runs a clinic, and he told me I fall into that magical zone of not-quite-unhealthy enough to require GLP-1s. The other kicker: is it sounds like once someone starts on those drugs, they are stuck for life. I don't really want that.
I'd rather be carrying 50lbs of elk meat out on my back up and down the mountains than 50 lbs of excess body weight. And even more so, I'd like something consistent that lasts year round, that doesn't require me to spend every waking moment feeling hungry and thinking about food. Anyone else in the same boat or know anything more about these drugs?
For clarity, I'm not looking for a miracle or easy way out; I've sweat plenty in gyms, dieted hard, and lost 50+ lbs about 10 times already. I know what that takes and will do it again. But I am curious to learn about others' thoughts and experiences in this regard.
Same here. I’ve been having to drive 2 1/2 hrs to get my medicine nowI have type 2 diabetes and can personally tell you that people that use these drugs for weight loss freaking suck. Many times I needed to get a prescription filled and can't get it because a shortage of the drugs. When I asked the pharmacist I was told to many people are using it for weight loss.
True. This is an interesting loophole in drug patents enforcement that seems ripe for closing now that bigger compounding pharmacies than just neighborhood stores are making a lot of money off it. Hers/his stock has gone nuts.If you’re asking for a friend, compounding pharmacies are cheaper.