Utah Raises Hunting Fees

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The state legislature approved hunting license fee increases that will help put the DWR back on stable financial ground, allow it to fill some of its vacant positions and do habitat work critical to deer and other wildlife.

Nonresidents will be those most affected by the fee increase, which will take effect January 1, 2005. The DWR should receive an additional $1.7 million a year through the increase.

"The continued drought, a slow economy and rangeland fires are among several things that have impacted the division's budget over the past few years," said Greg Sheehan, Administrative Services Section chief for the DWR. "We've spent nearly $1 million more than we've taken
in each of the last several years."

To try and cut costs, the DWR has left 25 positions vacant and cut spending in almost all of its programs. There are also several habitat projects the division has not been able to carry out. Even with all of the cost cutting, the DWR was close to running out of surplus money. "Our budget surplus was getting to a critical level. That's a dangerous situation to be in with chronic wasting disease and all of the other situations that can impact a wildlife agency financially," Sheehan said. "It will be a lifesaver to have this additional revenue that can be used to build that surplus again."

Over the next few months, DWR staff will determine how to spend money that isn't put into the surplus. Filling vacant positions and using the money for habitat work to benefit deer and other wildlife are two examples of how it might be used. A walk-in access program that would provide hunters and anglers with access to private property is another development that may await sportsmen in future years.

The following is an example of some of the current fees and the 2005 fees approved by the legislature (some of the other fees that were approved aren't listed):

Fees for 2004 and 2005

Residents

Resident General Season Deer (2004) $35 (2005) $40

Resident General Season Elk (2004) $60 (2005) $65

Resident Limited Entry Bull Elk (2004) $180 (2005) $280

Resident Wild Turkey (2004) $30 (2005) $40


Nonresidents

Nonresident General Season Deer (2004) $208 (2005) $263

Nonresident General Season Elk (2004) $333 (2005) $388

Nonresident Limited Entry Bull Elk (2004) $483 (2005) $795

Nonresident Wild Turkey (2004) $55 (2005) $100

Most nonresident big game permits will increase by $55 in 2005. Two exceptions are nonresident limited entry bull elk permits, which will cost $795, and nonresident once-in-a-lifetime big game permits, most of which increased by $500 over what they cost in 2004.

Another change is that resident and nonresident wild turkey hunters will not be required to purchase a small game license. Not requiring this should simplify the process of obtaining a wild turkey hunting permit.

The legislature also approved a fee for a premium limited entry bull elk permit. There aren't any premium limited entry bull elk units in Utah, but some existing limited entry bull elk units could be changed to premium units. People can comment on whether they want some of Utah's limited entry bull elk units changed to premium units at Regional Advisory Council meetings this fall.

In addition to the hunting license fee increase, the legislature restored $60,000 in additional general fund money to the DWR during the recent session. The legislature also directed the division to provide $300,000 of its general fund money to the Department of Agriculture and Food. This money will be used to control coyotes and other predators.
 
I heard that from a freind MOOSIE. Do you have any idea what it is going to be? Looks like I'll probably buy even fewer tags next year. :rolleyes:
UT is as proud of their turkeys as ID is I see......
 
Nemont- Have you heard what the MT fees are going up to? That should put the ol' "guaranteed" elk tag over the four-digit mark shouldn't it?

...my world each Fall is gonna get smaller and smaller :(
 
Even with higher fees, it's a bargain - Sunday, Sept. 5, 2005




SUMMARY: Cost of hunting and fishing licenses are the least of what we spend on outdoor pursuits - and the greatest of values.

"Montana Fish, Wildlife and Parks officials said today the agency will ask the state's hunters and anglers to consider an increase in license fees Š the first general increase for resident hunters and anglers in more than 10 years."




- FWP press release, Aug. 17

We've been doing just that - considering a license fee increases - while we get ready to head out for some early fall hunting and fishing this weekend.

Consider this:

We started by pumping $60 worth of gasoline into a truck valued at perhaps $25,000.

Into the back goes a $75 dog crate to hold the priceless Labrador retriever that every month eats a good $25 worth of her food, as well as much of ours.

We slide in a cooler containing $40 worth of food, $6 worth of beer and $8 worth of soft drinks atop $4 worth of ice.

We pack the $80 bird vest, $35 hunting pants, $125 boots, $12.95 hat, $40 sunglasses, $90 jacket and two $5.95 dog whistles, one for a spare.

Then we grab our $100 binoculars, $149 GPS and $50 folding knife.

In goes the shotgun of a value best not stated in a family newspaper - at least one read by a certain member of our family; $15 worth of shotgun shells should be sufficient for this weekend.

Added to the pile is the $200 fly rod, $125 reel, $40 line, $150 waders, $90 wading boots and a $90 vest crammed with flies, gadgets and gear of inestimable value.

Up top we throw the $1,000 canoe, a pair of $30 paddles and a couple of $20 life jackets.

Next comes the $150 tent, $200 sleeping bag, $60 camp stove, $40 lantern, two $20 folding camp chairs, $29 folding table, $8 flashlight.

What else? Oh, yes - the licenses. We need the proper licenses to hunt and fish. Check in the wallet - there it is! - $56.25 Sportsman's License, which includes conservation, fishing and bird, deer and elk hunting licenses.

Under FWP's proposed increases, this particular combination of licenses would rise in price to a total of $75 a year. Individual licenses purchased ala carte would increase proportionately: fishing to $20 from $16; deer to $20 from $13; elk $25 from $16.

If you're like us, you're never pleased to pay higher prices for anything. Then again, as a sportsman or sportswoman, you also know there's no free lunch. It costs money to manage Montana's incomparable wildlife populations and fisheries and to provide access and opportunities to harvest some of nature's bounty. Hunters and fishermen have always paid the lion's share for wildlife conservation and fisheries. Most of us take great pride in the great conservation success stories we've helped finance. Some of the money comes from sportsmen-initiated taxes on outdoor equipment. A lot of that money comes from fishing and hunting license fees. There are some parts of government we don't mind seeing cut back, but this isn't one of them. Adequate funding for fish and wildlife management is very much a quality-of-life issue for most of us in Montana.

FWP wants us to consider tithing a tad more to the cause, with the fee increase subject to approval by the 2005 Legislature. We're considering that today as we launch into a fall schedule that makes the most of some of the longest, most liberal hunting seasons in the country - with some more fishing to boot. We're considering it as we size up all the gear in our outfit, all the stuff listed above - not to mention all the other things on which we wind up spending our money.

And all things considered, we have to say that the cost of licenses is the least of what we spend on our outdoor pursuits. Even with the proposed increases, the cost of licenses still will be the cheapest part. And when we consider what we get for the modest cost of licenses that entitle us to share in some of the best fishing and hunting in America, we can't think of money better spent.
 
My spending is way below that estimate.

Lets see Ten Bears expense comparison:

We started by pumping $60 worth of gasoline $40.00 is all my truck will hold into a truck valued at perhaps $25,000 $500.00 MOOSIE couldn't be convinced to part with his cheap enough, so I had to find one I could afford .

Into the back goes a $75 dog crate $15.00 at Good Will to hold the priceless Labrador retriever that every month eats a good $25 worth of her food $20.00 worth of quality dog food lasts two months if you follow the feeding directions , as well as much of ours.

We slide in a cooler containing $40 worth of food, $6 worth of beer $0.00 I don't drink beer anymore and $8 $2.50 worth of soft drinks atop $4 worth of ice $0.00 I make my own ice ahead of time .

We pack the $80 bird vest $15 vest , $35 hunting pants $20.00 at best , $125 boots $49.95 , $12.95 hat $4.95 , $40 $5 sunglasses, $90 $20 jacket and two $5.95 dog whistles, one for a spare.

Then we grab our $100 $19.95 binoculars, $149 $99.95 GPS and $50 $4.95 folding knife.

In goes the shotgun of a value best not stated in a family newspaper - at least one read by a certain member of our family $89.95 ; $15 worth of shotgun shells should be sufficient for this weekend.

Added to the pile is the $200 29.95 with reel and line included fly rod, $125 reel $0 , $40 $0 line, $150 $29.95 waders, $90 $20.00 for felt/glue/old shoes wading boots and a $90 $14.95 WalMart vest crammed with flies, gadgets and gear of inestimable value.

Up top we throw the $1,000 $200 canoe, a pair of $30 $9.95 paddles and a couple of $20 life jackets.

Next comes the $150 $50 tent, $200 $19.95 sleeping bag, $60 $5 camp stove, $40 $5 lantern, two $20 $9.95 folding camp chairs, $29 $10 folding table, $8 flashlight.


I guess my next question would be how often am I expected to replace these items? I must replace my license and tags every year. I don't need to replace many of the items I use very often.
 
Figure out your license per hour cost for hunting and fishing all year long. My license fees probably come to about thirty five cents an hour for all the time I spend hunting and fishing. There's nothin' else that even comes close to being that reasonable. I don't care if they double the fees.

Compare it to the cost per hour of going to the movies, golfing or skiing. Or compare it to the hourly cost of riding around on one of those fatassed ATVs some of you guys are so in love with. Any fatassed ATV owner who bitches about the cost of a hunting and fishing license should lose all his hunting and fishing priviliges for life.
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[ 09-23-2004, 12:29: Message edited by: Ithaca 37 ]
 
Originally posted by Ten Bears:
I heard that from a freind MOOSIE. Do you have any idea what it is going to be?
Actually I don't yet.....

But.... If an Elk / deer / bear tag is $1,000 I will pay it. I know alot of people that smoke 2 packs of Cigs a Day talking about they can't afford the new prices.... :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
 
I quit smoking and drinking years ago so I could afford things. The only bad habit I have left is coming here, and since it don't cost anything yet, guess I can keep this one a while longer.
 
Investment of the hunt (rough estimations):

MT media: $28,198.85 + an invaluable shotgun and licenses.

Ten Bears cost/investment: $1371.80(shotgun included) + licenses and tags.

Somebody makes one heck of a lot more money then I do. :D
 
I doubt MOOSIE needs my meager funds as much as he needs yours. :D Feel free to pay triple, it'll help to feed your ego EG.
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I'm told by Bill McClean from the AZGF commission that the raises in fees are all a direct result from the USO suit against Arizona and the other actions filed in the other states. Arizona has raised/is raising it's out of state fees in reaction to the lawsuit and the other states are following suit. Pretty soon, working folks like us won't be able to afford to go out of state to hunt.

So send USO a thank you note and wish them well. (A deep one to fall into.)

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Ten Bears,

Now I am as frugal as anyone. I don't like to waste money but I really don't know that your prices are an accurate reflection of what having good quality gear is worth.

Your bino's cost $19.95? Have you looked through a good quality pair and seen the difference. The extra is worth is just for the reduced eye strain.

Also you sleeping bag is $19.95? I am willing to bet you have to leave the woods when the temp get below 40 degrees with a bag like that.

Equipment is one area that quality is actually cheaper then "cheap" stuff because it performs better and it is more durable.

I am not saying don't pinch pennies but some things you need to spend a little cash on.

Nemont
 
Nemont,

There is no beneifit to quality in binoculars if you spend your time road hunting. It is a far better investment to get good quality wiper blades and new washer fluid before each hunt.

And the heater in the $500 rig can keep you far warmer than a sleeping bag on those cold road hunts that Ten takes....
 
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