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I have the RIGHT TO BEAR ARMS, yet I can't own a machine gun or sawed off shotgun freely.
I have FREEDOM to assemble, yet I need a permit to do so.
Buzz I can go on for days with the "rights" I have that have been tweaked or regulated.
Also. CROW of 1868 were most likely 100% CROW( I know nothing is 100%). So, the definition of CROW 1868. Not 2019. Is Herrera a CROW name? Seems very Latin to me.
Again. Why did history get to start in 1868? Who did the CROW capture that land from? What is the geographical location of CROW land? How were boundaries set?
Again. My great.......grandpa rolled into Utah with Brigham. Years later the Federal government sent an army against United States citizens(Johnson army). My great..... grandmother was forced off her farm when Utah petitioned statehood and polygamy was outlawed. Where is my farm?
My backyard neighbors family was pulled off their land and sent to topaz for WWII. Where is his farm?
It's assinine to start history in 1868. It's more so to take such vagueness as "unoccupied land" or "hunting rights" and apply it to 2019. Or, does the Mormons who rolled into Utah now own it outright? After all, the Utah territory (including some of Wyoming) was just that, "our land".
It's a word game. If the courts find that 1868 "hunting rights" apply, then 1868 methods should as well. As soon as Herrera loaded up the 20xx truck, shooting 20xx guns, and 20xx bullets (to poach by the way, let's not forget this was wanton waste to begin with), he acknowledged his heritage no longer applied.
Further, sure water rights should apply. However you do not own the right to pollute your water. Hunting rights and when wanton waste begins. After all we've heard all the tales of how natives use everything in harmony with nature, let's not forget where this began. A damn fine Wyoming LE doing a fine job tracking down POACHERS.
I own all the property in my name. I am not allowed to pollute it. Rights have restrictions in a society.
Mormons, were never a recognized foreign power... so that comparison is kinda moot.
The Crow were a nation at war with the US and signed a peace treaty, at the time they were not US citizens, young was a US citizen. Actually at the time your relative moved to Utah it was part of Mexico, and was ceded to the US as part of Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo, I guess if we want to just toss all the treaties out the window you can I can consider ourselves Mexicans.
In the global context 1868 really isn't that old, Anglo-Portuguese Treaty of 1373 is still in force and effect today. You need to separate Herrera and his actions from the legal conversation of the Crow Tribe v. the State of Wyoming. The Crow tribe is a semi-autonomous entity within the United States... it's just different.