The housing shortage and public lands

[BigHornRam]

I'm fine nuking Big Sky. And any town where you can buy $5000 bottles of wine while some poor kid lives in a tent to serve the would be lords & ladies. I'm an American though, and I hate aristocracy. Get yer hands off my tea, King George!

Or, we can recognize that the economic model that values investment revenue over production revenue and community development is what's killing us as the line between the wealthy & the rest of us grows larger.

My brother and I, and our future wives skied Big Sky over college winter break 1988. Lift tickets were $25. Lodging was affordable even for cash strapped college kids. I remember seeing a fur coat in one of the shops with a $30,000 price tag! Can you even find a real fur coat in one of these ski towns anymore?

 

[Deleted member 28227]

Coolidge?

I will be honest didn't know much about him... after reading his wiki... few things I disagree with but it's been almost 100 years... yeah I think I would be in his political party.

 

[tjones]

Did FWP ever come by and take care of that snake for old so & so?

Hey Ravalli County sent her to Helena. Its a wonder she never ran a bill making rattle snakes a big game specie.

 

[Deleted member 28227]

Can you even find a real fur coat in one of these ski towns anymore?

Aspen Fur & Shearing
555 E Durant Ave, Aspen, CO 81611

Alaska fur gallery
141 east Meadow dr. STE 103
Vail , Colorado 81657

Overland
Locations in...
Telluride
Durango
Taos
Steamboat
Breckenridge
Jackson Hole
Park City
Sun Valley
Aspen

If it's cold and there are tourists from Texas there are fur coats... it is known.

 

[Otto Matic]

I recall interest rates peaking at over 20%. What are we at today? 3%?

In some places 0% to 1.5%.
I'm not trying to beat a drum, but Trump's economy had housing prices down, building materials affordable and APR rates (3% to 5%) where a working man could afford a home and a loan.

 

[tjones]

The run in lumber and steel started in the spring of 2020.

 

[Cheesehead]

When was the last time we actually had a fiscal conservative in office…

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[Cheesehead]

I had high hopes that COVID would make a bigger dent in this problem. Not really. Too bad. We humans seem incapable of dealing with it on our own. The ONLY president of US that I know of to address the need for zero population growth was ... believe it or not ... Richard Nixon. He also set aside more national monuments and parks than any other president (even TR as I recall ... though I think Carter set aside more acreage with his Alaska deals). Nixon was also responsible for Clean Air Act and Clean Water Act. A helluva conservative, eh? Anyway, when I heard him bring up ZPG in his State of the Union Address I almost fell off my chair. No one else since has had the balls to acknowledge the source of ALL our problems is situated between our legs. Head in the sand (and I'm looking at you, Right to Lifers).

 

[Otto Matic]

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Slick Willie?
Really?

 

[LWC55]

I had high hopes that COVID would make a bigger dent in this problem. Not really. Too bad. We humans seem incapable of dealing with it on our own. The ONLY president of US that I know of to address the need for zero population growth was ... believe it or not ... Richard Nixon. He also set aside more national monuments and parks than any other president (even TR as I recall ... though I think Carter set aside more acreage with his Alaska deals). Nixon was also responsible for Clean Air Act and Clean Water Act. A helluva conservative, eh? Anyway, when I heard him bring up ZPG in his State of the Union Address I almost fell off my chair. No one else since has had the balls to acknowledge the source of ALL our problems is situated between our legs. Head in the sand (and I'm looking at you, Right to Lifers).

That was never the plan for the covid. The jabs will take care of that. They didn't tell you?

 

[BigHornRam]

In some places 0% to 1.5%.
I'm not trying to beat a drum, but Trump's economy had housing prices down, building materials affordable and APR rates (3% to 5%) where a working man could afford a home and a loan.

Can I get a link to one of these 0% loans, Otto? Thanks!

 

[BigHornRam]

Aspen Fur & Shearing
555 E Durant Ave, Aspen, CO 81611

Alaska fur gallery
141 east Meadow dr. STE 103
Vail , Colorado 81657

Overland
Locations in...
Telluride
Durango
Taos
Steamboat
Breckenridge
Jackson Hole
Park City
Sun Valley
Aspen

If it's cold and there are tourists from Texas there are fur coats... it is known.

Faux fur or real fur?

 

[BigHornRam]

I will be honest didn't know much about him... after reading his wiki... few things I disagree with but it's been almost 100 years... yeah I think I would be in his political party.

Grinnell liked him a lot.

 

[Otto Matic]

Can I get a link to one of these 0% loans, Otto? Thanks!

Sure! Just Google "zero interest loans".
Easy peasy.

You're welcome!

 

[BigHornRam]

Sure! Just Google "zero interest loans".
Easy peasy.

You're welcome!

Do they speak in English or Nigerian?

 

[Deleted member 28227]

Faux fur or real fur?

 

[Otto Matic]

Do they speak in English or Nigerian?

Soooo.... what's the problem? You can't tell the difference between English and Nigerian?

 

[BigHornRam]

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So lift tickets are up and fur prices are down in 2021 vs 1988.

 

[OntarioHunter]

Do they speak in English or Nigerian?

Elven I suspect. Or maybe Dwarven. Fairy Tale First National is the only bank I know of that loans money free of charge.

 

[Gerald Martin]

I'll be honest, government-subsidized housing so that everyone can afford it was not the place I expected the most conservative of the conservatives to go.

That’s because the “most conservative of the conservatives” isn’t a conservative. He just wants to subsidize a more special, special interest.