Talk me out of a Knight Ultra Lite

[Justabirdwatcher]

I shoot 777 and #11’s in all my traditional guns (3). Cleanup is easy and ignition is not a problem. I wouldn’t hesitate to shoot a knight with that system.

definitely the direction I'm heading, or, returning to. My life felt much simpler when I shot #11's and Triple 7 in my Ruger, and I killed a lot of deer with that rig.

 

[Justabirdwatcher]

Well, you asked to be talked out of it, so I'll suggest, as usual, the less trod patch.

Build one. Make it whatever you want. A nice sidelock plains rifle can be very light (my wife's for example), or maybe a long range bullet rifle with an underhammer action, or even a flintlock (while percussion caps can be hard to find, and worse to make from scratch, rocks are here to stay, and cheap at twice the price).

Best of all, it will be yours from beginning to end.

Your deer will never taste better than when you have shot it with a rifle you built yourself.

30+ years of traditional bowhunting has taken some of the wind out of my "do it the hard way" sails. I like the way you think, but I am not looking to add another challenge at the moment.

 

[cgasner1]

definitely the direction I'm heading, or, returning to. My life felt much simpler when I shot #11's and Triple 7 in my Ruger, and I killed a lot of deer with that rig.

Get some musket caps

 

[Sheltowee]

Because not all states allow it in their ML seasons, including where I am now.

 

[buckbull]

I bought a Knight BK-92 when they came out in the 90's. I've either inherited or purchased 80 guns since then. Without question the knight rifle was the biggest peice of shit I have laid my hands on. Inconsistent and not accurate. It's so bad I never bothered to pass that turd on to anyone else. I thought about using the barrel as a tomato stake, at least get some use from it.

I'm with mallardsx, knights are a pain in the ass to clean compared to cva and traditions.

 

[BrentD]

30+ years of traditional bowhunting has taken some of the wind out of my "do it the hard way" sails. I like the way you think, but I am not looking to add another challenge at the moment.

Then buy one already made, including customs. You don't have to build it. They hunt just fine, better than you think, maybe better than the inlines.

 

[ismith]

Well it's that time of year again, the time of year I always get interested in buying a new hunting rifle. This year I've decided I just have never been happy with my CVA Optima V2 or at least, not as happy with it as I was my Ruger 77/50 (never, ever should have sold that gun). But there were a few things I didn't like about the Ruger too, so I've been perusing the ML's and came across the Knight Ultra Lite. I love light, accurate rifles, and this one can be set up to shoot percussion caps pretty easily. Plus it is not a break action cocker, which I think is what I'm just so tired of with my CVA. Those break action cockers just reek of cheap.

All that said, the idea of spending $1500 on a ML, even if it's one of the best ML's on the planet, seems steep to me. I can afford it, but will I be happy with this gun? I'd love to hear from those of you who own a Knight Ultra Lite. Thanks in advance!

A Knight Ultra Lite will make you differently abled and a bundle of sticks, go with one of these instead................. https://kiblerslongrifles.com/

 

[F250]

Because not all states allow it in their ML seasons, including where I am now.

Can you tell us just what the restrictions are on muzzle loaders where you intend to hunt (scope, 209 primers, sabots, certain propellants, etc.)

 

[utah400elk]

I currently have a .45 Knight UL in a nitride finish. I have also had a CVA V2 with the nitride finish. These two rifles are not even close…IMO. The Knight is a very nice rifle. I can shoot sub MOA and I currently shoot Parker 270 grn over 120 grn (by volume) BH 209 @ 2220 FPS. I converted my rifle to shoot LRMP and added a arrowhead brake. I sold the CVA V2 to get the Knight UL after trying the swap a couple years ago. I tend to tinker with my muzzleloaders and have swapped back and forth a fair bit. The UL rifle is awesome and a quality build. I simply prefer the LRMP ignition. If you buy one, you will be happy.

That said, I plan on selling my UL in the next month and switching to a new Areowhead smokeless build. It will shoot 150 grn BH209. With a few modifications (light weight action, 24” #6 contour barrel and carbon stock) on the build it will do everything I want with a lighter weight than their standard build. I previously had a Areowhead rifle but it was a little too heavy for my type of hunting.

I have a Knight Disc Extreme .50 caliber that I will not sell. It is a great rile and is my Colorado elk set up. It shoots Fury universal 320 grn with a 117 grn (by volume) BH 209 load at over 2000 FPS. Great round for anything out to about 150 with open sights (max distance my older eyes can shoot.

 

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[Justabirdwatcher]

I currently have a .45 Knight UL in a nitride finish. I have also had a CVA V2 with the nitride finish. These two rifles are not even close…IMO. The Knight is a very nice rifle. I can shoot sub MOA and I currently shoot Parker 270 grn over 120 grn (by volume) BH 209 @ 2220 FPS. I converted my rifle to shoot LRMP and added a arrowhead brake. I sold the CVA V2 to get the Knight UL after trying the swap a couple years ago. I tend to tinker with my muzzleloaders and have swapped back and forth a fair bit. The UL rifle is awesome and a quality build. I simply prefer the LRMP ignition. If you buy one, you will be happy.

That said, I plan on selling my UL in the next month and switching to a new Areowhead smokeless build. It will shoot 150 grn BH209. With a few modifications (light weight action, 24” #6 contour barrel and carbon stock) on the build it will do everything I want with a lighter weight than their standard build. I previously had a Areowhead rifle but it was a little too heavy for my type of hunting.

I have a Knight Disc Extreme .50 caliber that I will not sell. It is a great rile and is my Colorado elk set up. It shoots Fury universal 320 grn with a 117 grn (by volume) BH 209 load at over 2000 FPS. Great round for anything out to about 150 with open sights (max distance my older eyes can shoot.

Thanks for that. I am thinking I'll keep the CVA .50 for CO elk (I go there every few years) and possibly add a .45 Cal Knight UL as a dedicated deer gun. But the appeal of the .50 is using the same bullets as the 45-70 I will eventually get. Do you favor the .45 over a .50 for any particular reason?

 

[utah400elk]

Better ballistics with the .45 and shoots flatter than the .50. I also shoot bullet to bore and there is better bullet selection.

 

[Justabirdwatcher]

Better ballistics with the .45 and shoots flatter than the .50. I also shoot bullet to bore and there is better bullet selection.

I'd be interested to learn which bullets you like for that .45

 

[utah400elk]

The best shooting bullet I have found is the Arrowhead .45 cal 300 grn XLD. I was simply amazed at the accuracy of that bullet. However, in my current UL, I am using a Parker Productions .45 cal 270gr Match/Hunter E-MAX. It has a thin jacket (.015) and will be good for deer. I planned on switching to a Arrowhead XLD 275 grn. Those are a little thicker jacked (.021) and will hold up better on both deer and elk in the 2200 FPS range…IMO. I am serious about switching back to another Areowhead build. I shot a decent whitetail last year with a Arrowhead .45 cal 300 grn XLD out of a smokeless muzzleloader and it held up great.

 

[Justabirdwatcher]

Welp, I've decided to wait for now and see if I can find a sale, or a clean used one to have ready for next year. Took my CVA to the range yesterday, topped with a lightweight 4x32 scope and it shot fine. Put it on the scale and it only weighs 7.5 lbs scoped, and I can easily shave 1/4 lb. with new scope mounts. Those Durasight mounts feel like they are made of tungsten! Even thinking about cutting the 26" barrel back a few inches to improve the balance. But I guess I'll dance with the one I have this season.

Thanks for all the helpful comments. Sure gave me a lot to think about.

I did find the "outlet" on Knight's website, and they do have a few at a discounted price. Just not exactly what I want.

 

[BAKPAKR]

Yikes! I just looked at the prices on the new Knights. I am pretty sure that I was getting emails a few years ago about ultra lite closeouts for well under $500.