SF118 Action alert big bucks for big bucks take 2

[BuzzH]

​ We need your help again. In less than 24 hours after sending out the alert about Senate File 118 - the Legislature's attempt to privatize wildlife for private profit - nearly 500 BHA members took action to tell the Senate Travel, Recreation, and Wildlife Committee to oppose this bill. Thank you. And because of your efforts, this bill was likely to die in that committee next week Tuesday - so the private profiteers decided to pull the bill back, and send it to the Senate Agriculture Committee instead where it is guaranteed to pass out onto the Senate floor. We know we just asked you to contact the Senate TRW committee. But we now need to ask you to contact your district's Senator, because this bill WILL hit the Senate floor and we need to make sure every single Senator knows that this is a hard line we will not cross in Wyoming: we will not let our publicly-owned wildlife be privatized and sold to the highest bidder. Defend the public trust the North American Model of Conservation. Don’t let your opportunity get siphoned off to wealthy non-residents who don’t think they should have to wait like everyone else. These are your tags that will be sold for private profit! ​ ​ TAKE ACTION HERE​ We strongly recommend that you customize the subject line and message when you take action to ensure your unique voice has the greatest impact. Thank you, Wyoming BHA Questions? Drop us a line. More from the Wyoming Chapter: Browse upcoming events. Visit our website. Connect with us on Facebook. Follow us on Instagram. ​ ​ JOIN BHA​

 

[Dieseldog]

BHA is a terrorist organization in sheep's clothing

 

[BuzzH]

BHA is a terrorist organization in sheep's clothing

Whatever Crossley.

 

[cgasner1]

BHA is a terrorist organization in sheep's clothing

What organization do you volunteer with and donate your time and money to?

 

[Straight Arrow]

BHA is a terrorist organization in sheep's clothing

Please authenticate your standing, source(s) of information, and logic set for the conclusion expressed by the strong assertion.
Evidence of terrorism and data source for ovine comment would be helpful, as so many here on HT are under contradictory allusions regarding BHA.

 

[utah400elk]

The landowners can already profit from the state’s wildlife. They can charge trespass fees. They can charge whatever they want to recover whatever they feel they are losing from wildlife. This is simply a ploy to allow some people to jump ahead of others with privatization of tags. I hate seeing similar proposals in UT, AZ and, WY.

 

[Mallardsx2]

​ Don’t let your opportunity get siphoned off to wealthy non-residents who don’t think they should have to wait like everyone else…. ​

Can wealthy residents not buy the tags too?

 

[Alpine01]

Can wealthy residents not buy the tags too?

And as a not-so-wealthy NR, my chances of hunting in Wyo are already next to nil what with the insane NR license fees and meager NR tag allocations. Why is private price gouging bad and Govt. price gouging good?

 

[BuzzH]

Can wealthy residents not buy the tags too?

Yes, 100%.

I have a landowner in a very good Wyoming elk unit that would sell me his landowner tag in a heart beat. Have a few more that most likely would as well.

I definitely have the disposable income to do it.

So yes, personally I'd benefit significantly from this bill.

But, it's not about me or other residents that could, and would buy them.

Do you want a few hundred of your NR allocation of tags going to the highest bidder? Because it would be real easy to see all the transferable tags if this were to pass come from the NR pool.

I get it, you always like to play the role of the village smart ass.

The Resident Hunters in Wyoming are not OK with this bill for every right reason.

 

[Mallardsx2]

Yes, 100%.

I have a landowner in a very good Wyoming elk unit that would sell me his landowner tag in a heart beat. Have a few more that most likely would as well.

I definitely have the disposable income to do it.

So yes, personally I'd benefit significantly from this bill.

But, it's not about me or other residents that could, and would buy them.

Do you want a few hundred of your NR allocation of tags going to the highest bidder? Because it would be real easy to see all the transferable tags if this were to pass come from the NR pool.

I get it, you always like to play the role of the village smart ass.

The Resident Hunters in Wyoming are not OK with this bill for every right reason.

Thanks for answering my question.

But it’s a shame the “BHA representative” threw in some BULLSHIT comment about rich non-residents being the ones to buy the tags.

No wonder the BHA has such a lack of support from NR’s…...

For the record I believe 95% of HUNTERS don’t support the bill…..

 

[Alpine01]

But, it's not about me or other residents that could, and would buy them.

Do you want a few hundred of your NR allocation of tags going to the highest bidder? Because it would be real easy to see all the transferable tags if this were to pass come from the NR pool.

The Resident Hunters in Wyoming are not OK with this bill for every right reason.

If it doesn't impact resident hunters, and all of the transferable tags come out of the NR pool, why are resident hunters concerned? I can see NR's being upset in that their tag pool will shrink even further but they don't have a say regardless.

And WYO is already tilting the tag pool to the "highest bidder" with their license fee structure. Want better odds as an NR? Pay a 3x premium!

The BHA call you provided didn't list the reasons WYO Resident Hunters oppose this - can you elaborate?

 

[BuzzH]

If it doesn't impact resident hunters, and all of the transferable tags come out of the NR pool, why are resident hunters concerned? I can see NR's being upset in that their tag pool will shrink even further but they don't have a say regardless.

And WYO is already tilting the tag pool to the "highest bidder" with their license fee structure. Want better odds as an NR? Pay a 3x premium!

The BHA call you provided didn't list the reasons WYO Resident Hunters oppose this - can you elaborate?

Yeah, we oppose transferable landowner tags, hard no.

 

[Alpine01]

Yeah, we oppose transferable landowner tags, hard no.

And the reason is ..... ?

 

[BuzzH]

Thanks for answering my question.

But it’s a shame the “BHA representative” threw in some BULLSHIT comment about rich non-residents being the ones to buy the tags.

No wonder the BHA has such a lack of support from NR’s…...

For the record I believe 95% of HUNTERS don’t support the bill…..

The reason that "bullshit" was thrown in, is because it's not bullshit, it's fact.

 

[BuzzH]

And the reason is ..... ?

Reduced opportunity and tag allocations should stay with the states. Transferable tags would also destroy access, our accessyes program, increase pressure on public lands, move elk onto private sooner, etc etc.

 

[cgasner1]

And the reason is ..... ?

That’s where it starts in 5 years the will want 5% if residents tags

 

[BuzzH]

If it doesn't impact resident hunters, and all of the transferable tags come out of the NR pool, why are resident hunters concerned? I can see NR's being upset in that their tag pool will shrink even further but they don't have a say regardless.

And WYO is already tilting the tag pool to the "highest bidder" with their license fee structure. Want better odds as an NR? Pay a 3x premium!

The BHA call you provided didn't list the reasons WYO Resident Hunters oppose this - can you elaborate?

I helped a NR hunter a couple days ago fill his $300 cow tag, highest bidder?

 

[Alpine01]

Reduced opportunity and tag allocations should stay with the states. Transferable tags would also destroy access, our accessyes program, increase pressure on public lands, move elk onto private sooner, etc etc.

I guess I am still not following the logic. How does a landowner transferring a (likely) NR tag from themselves to another party reduce a resident's opportunity? Does the bill call for an increase in tag allocations?

How are tag allocation decisions being removed from the State of WY? WY defines and issues the landowner tags currently correct?

How does the current bill change access? Isn't hunting on private property still at the discretion of the landowner or are there provisions around granting access in return for qualifying for a landowner tag? If there are such provisions, wouldn't limiting that access result in the loss of the landowner tag?

In reading a few stories on the matter, it seems the issue is that many landowners who are eligible for tags haven't bothered to get one and as hunting interest, or the chance to make money off those tags presents itself, has increased, that those landowners will put in for and get tags that up till now have gone to residents (?) and NRs. Is that a fair observation? If yes, why not reduce/cap the landowner tags or even do away with them and force landowners to participate in the same draw pool as everyone else?

Just trying to clearly understand the pros/cons to the proposed change.

 

[jryoung]

Add a few more representatives of groups with bullshit comments about wealthy NRs, don't le Buzz get all the glory, spread the hate....err love?

 

[Alpine01]

I helped a NR hunter a couple days ago fill his $300 cow tag, highest bidder?

NR Elk (antlered) regular draw license: $692
NR Elk (antlered) special draw license: $1950

So yeah - you can buy your way into potentially higher odds of drawing a tag at the same point level or even at a lower point level than the non-special draw; thus bypassing the usual wait time to accumulate points. Other than how much of the queue one could skip over, the basic premise remains the same. Unless I am missing something else in the discussion.