Pause on Federal Grants - MD25-13

[Hilljackoutlaw]

Shame they are owned by the executive branch now too

Was it owned by the executive branch when Obamacare was forced up my perfectly healthy 25 year old ass, or is some super new unconstitutional precedent being set here?

 

[LWC55]

Shame they are owned by the executive branch now too

Good thing the last admin didn’t weaponize the DOJ. That could have been terrible

 

[Hilljackoutlaw]

Why don't you guys go bump on this thread so at least it shows up on a Google search? Funny how possible help towards a solution thread gets about 0 comments or support, but the complain about it thread gets 100 hits a day.

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[El Jason]

And why does that matter? They shouldn’t have been here to begin with! What do you think will cost more A) sending them back b) the financial strain it’s puts on our country year after year? Take a guess, I bet even you can figure that out.

It costs us taxpayers $150.7 billion a year for the illegal immigration debacle the last 4 years….thats a very, very conservative number btw.

Okay, assuming they should not have been here in the first place, let’s say that answer is unilaterally “no”.

Does that have any logical bearing on whether we should use the most economical means to deport them? Common sense would say no, which then makes your argument a red herring.

They are here. End stop. If the lawful and logical choice is to deport them, we still have the option and obligation to save the taxpayers the most money in our chosen methodology.

 

[elkduds]

How much does the military spend on aircrew currency each year?

No idea, but it is infinitesimal compared to the cost to operate a military transport plane, from $15K-50K per hour depending. Of your tax $. 8 hours round trip from Houston to Guatemala. Against the alternative of $1200/deportee on charter service. That is a lot of $ just to wave a teeny weenie, and it proves the lie of "I'm saving the budget."

 

[BrentD]

Was it owned by the executive branch when Obamacare was forced up my perfectly healthy 25 year old ass, or is some super new unconstitutional precedent being set here?

You really do not understand insurance at all, do you? And your attitude here suggests you do not want to understand as well.

 

[BrentD]

Good thing the last admin didn’t weaponize the DOJ. That could have been terrible

Yes it would have, and they did not, as it turns out.

 

[Bullbrl]

Okay, assuming they should not have been here in the first place, let’s say that answer is unilaterally “no”.

Does that have any logical bearing on whether we should use the most economical means to deport them? Common sense would say no, which then makes your argument a red herring.

They are here. End stop. If the lawful and logical choice is to deport them, we still have the option and obligation to save the taxpayers the most money in our chosen methodology.

So what you’re saying is now it’s time to save taxpayer money? Got it! WAFJ

I’m sure you were really concerned about saving taxpayer dollars the last four years.

 

[ismith]

No idea, but it is infinitesimal compared to the cost to operate a military transport plane, from $15K-50K per hour depending. Of your tax $. 8 hours round trip from Houston to Guatemala. Against the alternative of $1200/deportee on charter service. That is a lot of $ just to wave a teeny weenie, and it proves the lie of "I'm saving the budget."

Maybe you should stick to bitching about something you know about, like USFS shitters? That crew of the military transport aircraft you're talking about will need to fly that plane to stay current, regardless of mission or lack thereof. That plane can't just be sitting on the tarmac either, it needs to be flown to keep everything lubed up and functioning properly.

 

[Hilljackoutlaw]

You really do not understand insurance at all, do you? And your attitude here suggests you do not want to understand as well.

I was by law made to buy something I did not need or get fined. Outside of that I don't need much more info to know it was unconstitutional.

 

[ismith]

Yes it would have, and the did not, as it turns out.

Olympic level mental gymnastics right here folks.

 

[NDGuy]

some super new unconstitutional precedent being set here?

I see someone skipped civics class

 

[BrentD]

Olympic level mental gymnastics right here folks.

Really?

 

[Hilljackoutlaw]

I see someone skipped civics class

So it is super new! Learn something new everyday around here.

 

[Justabirdwatcher]

RL unfurl="true"]https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/02/ensuring-accountability-for-all-agencies/[/URL]

"This is one of the structural safeguards, along with the separation of powers..."

Wouldn't be surprised if who ever wrote that immediately burst into flames.

 

[Big Fin]

Well, another thread completely off the rails from the original topic.

For reference, we’re working on some analysis of people who post almost exclusively on political oriented threads compared to their posts on hunting and conservation threads. That’s showing some interesting results. There are many members who have over 80% of their posts on political threads we’ve locked.

What level of value are they contributing to this place? Virtually none. When the analysis is done, there will be some passwords that no longer work.