The Hedgehog
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@BuzzH is no coward - he's more like the black klansman. https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbt.../montana-commies-inside-the-wire#Post18497435
Ryan Busse is a coward
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I will have completely failed as a parent if my kids ever act and talk like that (the thread posters) in public. Talk about doubling down on stupid.
The Hedgehog
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I'll go 100% against the popular opinion here, but I agree with Hossblur. And will keep my opinion to myself on going farther with it.
He's got an account here and one post - which appears to be an attempt to drum up interest in "his book".
https://www.hunttalk.com/threads/ryan-busse-anyone.311784/post-3342748
A 2 minutes span on Google also shows this below is not BS.
He's got an account here and one post - which appears to be an attempt to drum up interest in "his book".
https://www.hunttalk.com/threads/ryan-busse-anyone.311784/post-3342748
A 2 minutes span on Google also shows this below is not BS.
So I'm new here so apparently there are personal beefs.
I became away of Ryan having seen a video where he and a few others stormed into a speech by Cliven Bundy. A stupid idea, IMO, because anytime Cliven is speaking, he looks stupid, so interrupting him seems counter productive.
So the OP called him a coward for not doing g a podcast. He said he asked. Which on tge podcast section there is an ask with no response.
Then Mr Newberg jumps in to show him a screen shot of a interview that's never been aired, followed by an explanation and a shot at OP character. Kinda seems like me telling you all about my 420" bull, then posting screens hots of the hooves,but so be it.
OP counters with that while Mr Newberg might not have released tge podcast out of sensitivities, Ryan Busse was out selling books.
I looked. May 22 was Uvalde.
I googled Ryan Busse, Uvalde
Starting May 25 Busse talked to Wash Post, CNN, Guardian npr, NBC, NY Times, Economist, in roughly one week's time, each time of course there was a plug for his book.
Mr Newberg seems to be genuine in his desire to not seem to be promoting his site off tradgety.
Pretty hard to extend that credit to Ryan. I don't know if that cowardice, or grifti g, or extremely bad form?
I also noticed no one seems to want to touch him claiming he is unaffiliated in the copper bullet meetings? He sits on a board, how does he claim that?
Anyways, thanks for letting me join, I just like to try to simplify things down, and 22 pages was a long read for me
The Hedgehog
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I would read his book, right after I read Cam Hane's book Endure.
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jryoung
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Likely not really a stretch to say his phone was/will be ringing everytime there's a high profile shooting.....no different than Lawrence Keane or a rep from the NRA getting the same phone call.
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It can be tricky to parse the person from the message. From an outsider's perspective there are things about Mr. Busse I can appreciate and support, there are others that really rub me the wrong way. I'd probably drink a beer with him, but probably not two. That being said, his message is a unique one that shouldn't be ignored anymore so that it should be taken as the gospel. I'll make the time to read it at some point, but it's not a priority.
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Finally got back this far in the conversation. Mr. Hoss is sure a piece of work, thanks @Big Fin for setting the record straight. But I'm paying attention @JLS, and would like to apologize myself for calling you out a little over a week ago on a different thread (before I took some time off to breathe).
We're all passionate advocates for what we believe. Personal attacks are by and large a useless endeavor which distract from very real issues.
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Here’s a picture of me holding the fish you sonsabitches are frying.
I agree. “Coward” might not be the perfect word for someone that sells books off the backs of dead children, but whatever other word is more fitting, isn’t a good one.
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Incident Command Module or ICM can be applied in things like this. I’ve taken two complete ICM trainings (fire, corrections) and years ago LE Reactive Control Module, RCM. The RCM is alright in theory, cumbersome in application and hard to articulate in Court.Listen, I’m not gonna get all fired up and make a bunch of personal attacks against a tall young democrat from Colorado for going to ski camp when he was 14 years old, but I would like to let it be known that I don’t really believe cops are “just pigs”.
I too believe they have one of the most difficult and under appreciated jobs in our society.
In the context of our discussion and I reference to Uvalde, I don’t know if I really expect anyone to blindly run into gunfire, regardless of the weapon being used.
I guess maybe charging just has to be protocol in a mass shooting
But what if theirs hostages
Shooting into a crowd of students
Not really trying to discuss these things, but not all cops are bad mmkay.
All that aside, it appeared to be management failure at Uvalde. Chief said no, wait and then mission paralysis ensued. Cops stopped advancing to the threat and are now forever to be judged.
The Uvalde threat, where 19 were killed by one gunman, was amplified by the presence of a semiautomatic high capacity detachable magazine rifle. Columbine shooting happened while the high capacity ban was law. The two shooters “only” killed 13 kids that day and there’s a reason for that.
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I suppose a word could be assigned to companies that sell the weapons that mass shooters seem to prefer above others. That would not be fair to do. Assigning one word to describe Busse and his motivations is unfair also.
I don’t own one but they’re the most popular firearm platform there is. The percentage used in mass shootings is statistically insignificant. To think that a company would stop selling their best selling product (while their competitors don’t stop) because an extremely minute amount of their product is used incorrectly, doesn’t make much sense.
The Hedgehog
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If he wasn't a coward, he could show up and elaborate.
FI460
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Statistically insignificant perhaps. But culturally or societally relevant.
These shootings aren't high profile for no good reason.
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Interesting take. I might question who is selling what off the backs of those dead children. Is the NRA selling memberships on those same backs? Maybe the answer is more than one person is monetizing a tragedy.
I know what you're saying, but if you looked at it from a different prospective, say, of all the mass shootings how many involved an AR style platform.
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LEO in this, responded quickly thank goodness
www.nytimes.com
"...had legally purchased seven firearms recently — including the three used in the shooting — and was being treated for an emotional disorder, the Nashville police chief said on Tuesday."
Nashville Shooting: Police Say Shooter Was Under Doctor’s Care for ‘Emotional Disorder’ (Published 2023)
The authorities were still searching for a motive behind the attack, which killed six people, including three children, at a Christian elementary school. Here’s what to know:
"...had legally purchased seven firearms recently — including the three used in the shooting — and was being treated for an emotional disorder, the Nashville police chief said on Tuesday."
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If he wasn't a coward, he could show up and elaborate.
Or, he might realize this is not soil worth plowing.
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I'm sure it's not W$$$$RTH it.
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Unless Mr. Busse is operating under a different user name, it looks like he was last seen as active on this site only a few days after he first posted about his book, even before that thread got shut down
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