MTLabrador
Well-known member
Discussion point of the day: Jaguars are to mountain lions what Canadian super wolves are to regular wolves.
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Mexican super lions has a nice ring to itDiscussion point of the day: Jaguars are to mountain lions what Canadian super wolves are to regular wolves.
Thoughts on NM Ibex?Mountain lions are good as far as I'm concerned. Adding a cat that is twice the size doesn't thrill me much. We have changed the habitat - we have no idea what reintroduction will do. Not a fan.
David
NM
Don't belong here, do they? But here they are.Thoughts on NM Ibex?
Southern Arizona is existing jaguar habitat is it not? If they came naturally would that be different?Don't belong here, do they? But here they are.
Preserve and enhance existing habitat for Jaguars. Don't reintroduce them here.
Can do is not should do.
David
NM
Yes, they do belong. That's the point.Don't belong here, do they? But here they are.
Preserve and enhance existing habitat for Jaguars. Don't reintroduce them here.
Can do is not should do.
David
NM
That cat will behave far different than a Mountain Kitty.. Those cats DO hunt Homo Erectus in certain parts of the world dont see why geo location would be any different.. .... Look at these skull comparisons.It'll be all fun and games til one drags a kid into the weeds.
Bigger cat equals bigger problems.
Look Im for reintroduction of certain species but these cats may pose some problems down the road.
Not sure how to interpret this. Mt lions are big cats and they aren't bobcats by any stretch. Jags are bigger cats and leopards are leopards, not jags or Mt lions. All are solitary hunters that routinely take down prey quite a bit bigger than themselves. I'd like to see them back. There was at least one and probably several in AZ, back when I lived there. Never saw even its tracks.Jaguars and mountain lions are pretty far apart on the feline scale. Jaguars are the only true big cat in the Western Hemisphere. This is loosely associated with skull shape and the ability to “roar” versus “scream” They aren’t the smallest big cat globally as they run bigger than any leopard variety.
My point is that taxonomically they are more large leopard/small tiger while mountain lions are large bobcats. That doesn’t mean they don’t have overlap in prey or range, and since mountain lions live from north to south in the Americas they also aren’t incompatible in the same range.
Please explain why Ibex belong in NM. They're here, but what made them 'belong'?Yes, they do belong. That's the point.
That was in reference to Jaguars. They belong.Please explain why Ibex belong in NM. They're here, but what made them 'belong'?
David
NM
Warner Glen by chance?They have had a few documented in AZ over the years. I had a book at one time about a hound hunter who's dogs bayed one.
Yes. It was Warner Glen.Warner Glen by chance?
Clay Newcombs just did his film premiere of his Warner Glen documentary a couple of weekends ago here in NW Arkansas. It's available on the MeatEater YT channel now. Well worth watching