Relax, Everything is Going to be Okay!

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Wife and I enjoy season based episode tv shows during dinner.

Currently watching, "LOST". The flip and flop, back and forth, yin and yang, reminds me of this thread.

Musk, Season two:
Special Government Employee appointed over DOI, week one. USDA week two. DHS week three, DOJ week four...

 

[Beignet]

I was in to that back in high school.

I was too. Still am. To each there own.

Avoided commenting on this thread until now, but have to jump in to talk about a subject that is very important to me: In God We Trust, Inc is a pretty timeless EP. One of the best, in fact.

 

[rjthehunter]

Supporting is not the word. The word is apathy. You omit any details of parent agreement. But we can get in that if you wish on PM. Personal freedom is the literal concept of freedom and liberty in the constitution. You know, the government not telling people what they can and can’t do? You should become more familiar with it.

Can 12 year old kids drink, drive, smoke, or get tattoos?

12 year olds aren't smart enough to make these decisions.

 

[SAJ-99]

Socrates hated democracy

It fits. It’s hard. Americans have a reputation for embracing the difficult.

 

[SAJ-99]

Can 12 year old kids drink, drive, smoke, or get tattoos?

12 year olds aren't smart enough to make these decisions.

We agree. Like I said, you posited a question without relevant details.

 

[INMT]

Avoided commenting on this thread until now, but have to jump in to talk about a subject that is very important to me: In God We Trust, Inc is a pretty timeless EP. One of the best, in fact.

 

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https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/5168222-judge-orders-recission-of-opm-memos-directing-agencies-to-fire-probationary-employees/

“(The) Office of Personnel Management does not have any authority whatsoever, under any statute in the history of the universe, to hire and fire employees within another agency,” Alsup said.

“The agencies could thumb their nose at OPM if they wanted to,” he added.

Alsup said he would release an opinion with further details in “due course.” An evidentiary hearing is expected next month, where the judge said he wanted OPM acting director Charles Ezell to testify.

A coalition of government employee unions sued over OPM’s directive to agency leaders to fire employees still in their probationary period

This is a good start however Judge Alsup's limited role hinders his authority as the suit is against OPM, alone and not inclusive of the agencies who served the temporary non mission critical terminations. Grievance procedures mostly required within agencies, for those not aware.

He's declared OPM does not have the authority under any code of federal regulation (CFR) to order agencies to fire employees within.

He's unable to stop continued agency action, unable to require agencies to recind their orders to their employees, unable to require agencies to rehire. Each agency is responsible for their "probationary" discretion, which Alsup also noted as, "significant authority" to terminate probationary employees as another basis of his inability as a judge, hense, mutually agreed agency/union grievance procedures.

My agency and several others directed our employees to not respond during the back and forth confusion between the 14th when agencies and unions were advised DOGE process to identify probationary, non and mission critical into the "OPM" directive, five bulletpoints by end of day, 24th. Several other agencies directed otherwise.

 

[dranrab]

Yep. You’re a good people. How about we take your military pension and VA healthcare, and see if you land on your feet? In a year or two, you’ll be back to normal.

Two things, I would absolutely land on my feet, and that would be taking something I have ALREADY EARNED away from me, and that's a big difference.

 

[BigHornRam]

You all are forgetting that FDR was rolled around in a wheel chair for his third term.

Don't say third term. You're going to scare some folks here!

 

[BuzzH]

This is a good start however Judge Alsup's limited role hinders his authority as the suit is against OPM, alone and not inclusive of the agencies who served the temporary non mission critical terminations. Grievance procedures mostly required within agencies, for those not aware.

He's declared OPM does not have the authority under any code of federal regulation (CFR) to order agencies to fire employees within.

He's unable to stop continued agency action, unable to require agencies to recind their orders to their employees, unable to require agencies to rehire. Each agency is responsible for their "probationary" discretion, which Alsup also noted as, "significant authority" to terminate probationary employees as another basis of his inability as a judge, hense, mutually agreed agency/union grievance procedures.

My agency and several others directed our employees to not respond during the back and forth confusion between the 14th when agencies and unions were advised DOGE process to identify probationary, non and mission critical into the "OPM" directive, five bulletpoints by end of day, 24th. Several other agencies directed otherwise.

The question that will be answered in the evidentiary hearing will clear up whether or not the agencies were instructed/forced by OPM to fire their probationary employees. Why Ezell will be on the hot seat and why he's probably hired the best attorney he can find.

 

[Rie Bread]

The question that will be answered in the evidentiary hearing will clear up whether or not the agencies were instructed/forced by OPM to fire their probationary employees. Why Ezell will be on the hot seat and why he's probably hired the best attorney he can find.

The judicial branch is being tested. Our only hope?

 

[Rie Bread]

Don't say third term. You're going to scare some folks here!

lol dont remind them he won a forth!