BuzzH
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I think that's what many feel is at risk...and why they're not inclined to be happy about it.
recession?
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rjthehunter
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I guess we have different definitions of what bashing someone means. I vocalized an observation. I didn't say anything bad about him or any mental illnesses. I have cousins with mental illnesses, I know what they go through, and I wouldn't say anything bad about it.
Feel free to cuss me out again and get us both banned.
seeth07
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BigHornRam
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Sorkin is an angry, toxic, unhinged guy. Yet he has made quite a good living in this awful place called America!
seeth07
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I don't think the point of that scene is that America is awful though. The point is just that America used to be better than it is today and that while we were once the top dog in the world, that just isn't the case anymore.
elkduds
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One example of our 2nd World status, absolutely relevant to any discussion of our economy and politics:
Of the world's 33 industrialized countries, 32 have universal health care, with the United States being the notable exception.
BigHornRam
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What country would you rather live in right now, if given the choice?
seeth07
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The part that I like the most of that scene is at the very end where he gives his opinion on the "why". "because we were informed...by great men, men who were revered".
Think about the people of influence and doing the informing. Think about some of those people in the 20th century. People like Cronkite, JFK, MLK, FDR, Einstein, Muhammad Ali, Neil Armstrong, Jordan, Monroe. People grew up wanting to be exactly like them. Think about the influence today: Biden...Trump...Pelosi...Blitzer...Holt...Rogan...Kardashian...Musk...Lebron...Rodgers... Are any of them "revered status"?
Think about the people of influence and doing the informing. Think about some of those people in the 20th century. People like Cronkite, JFK, MLK, FDR, Einstein, Muhammad Ali, Neil Armstrong, Jordan, Monroe. People grew up wanting to be exactly like them. Think about the influence today: Biden...Trump...Pelosi...Blitzer...Holt...Rogan...Kardashian...Musk...Lebron...Rodgers... Are any of them "revered status"?
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seeth07
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That is a fantastic question and I honestly couldn't personally give a much informed response. Based on some metrics I could probably pick one but I have personally ever visited 4 other countries - Canada, France, Argentina and Switzerland. All were fantastic places to visit but I'm not informed enough to know if living in any of those places would provide me a better life than here.
rjthehunter
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north ko--- wait, no
Ukra- I mean Russ-- no...
Austr--- wait, they have stupid gun laws...
Moving to Africa and become a PH and guide hunters. Fun thought, but I don't actually want to live in Africa.
I don't think there's a better place to reside than the US.
BigHornRam
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In life's lottery, you got lucky where you were born.
seeth07
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Your post just proves the "we are uninformed" narrative.
Do you know what its like in Switzerland (consistently ranked as the best place to live in the world by many sources)?
How about Iceland? Japan? Denmark? Finland? Peru?
You first have to admit that in order to make a claim, you need to have done your research 100% to back it up
BigHornRam
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AOC making strong bid to be new leader of the Democrat party. 2028 potential?
rjthehunter
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My post literally says "I don't think there's a better place to reside than the US." That is called an opinion.
Its purely subjective, depending on who you are and what you like.
Do you like history? You're probably better off in Europe.
Do you like hunting? You can't really beat the US for the diversity of animals, seasons, climates, etc.
seeth07
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This thread is actually a great example of just how emotionally tied we are to our opinions as opposed to being informed.
The very first post of this thread was actually a pretty informative post. Facts were stated along with some sources. It was used as basis for the thread title that a recession in the US economy may be coming. For the 8 pages of posts later, there are very few informed posts.
The very first post of this thread was actually a pretty informative post. Facts were stated along with some sources. It was used as basis for the thread title that a recession in the US economy may be coming. For the 8 pages of posts later, there are very few informed posts.
Potsie
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*citation needed.
BigHornRam
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Switzerland is a very expensive place to live, 50% higher than the US. Taxes are much higher as well. Population density is very high, 580 people per square mile. Scenery is beautiful, however.
seeth07
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Shouldn't opinions be informed though? What is the basis for your opinion? What facts and experiences do you have that back that up?
You say that you can't beat the US for hunting. Why can you say that? Have you hunted in other countries before? Were those experiences worse than here in the USA?
i think many of them do have a revered status. certainly that isn't 100% bad. but it is far from 100% good.
the ability of these people and others to daily insert their opinion into the hands of those that hang on their every word on a minute by minute basis...
i think we all know that hasn't been doing much good for our country and the world.
You ever read a book called “The Scout Mindset?” You essentially just nutshell summarized the book. Might be of interest.
