Primal Rights CPS primer seater

[Redmt]

Yeah. Resolve it or STFU. mtmuley

It's being resolved. If you don't like it then you can pay it for him. KMA.

 

[millerkiller77]

That is the truth. I missed an issue with a chambering job and it did not show up until I was about to hand it over to my customer. He asked me to fire a few rounds and make a modified case for his OAL gauge. One round was fine, the next two showed some odd ridges in the case. I knew I chipped a carbide insert when boring the chamber, but it looked like the reamer cleaned it up during chambering, when it really just folded a burr into the gouge that came off after firing a couple times. Because I do not want anything like that going out of my shop, I ordered a new barrel and re did the entire job so it was done right, no charge. Sure, I could have set it back and re used that barrel, but he had a 24" barrel and it would have had to be 22", so he got a new 24" barrel. I will cut off the damaged chamber and use that on personal project instead. You make it right, fix your mistakes and give the customer what they paid for.

I absolutely appreciate that you posted your honest mistake/oversight and then voluntarily made it right with the customer at your expense.

I have a hypothetical scenario for you. If you inadvertently stripped the reciever scope base screws on a custom build, would you send the finished rifle with the optic mounted to a customer without telling them? Or, fix the threads & tell the customer what happened? Or just ship it out and have the customer pay to return it once the problem manifested?

 

[bluegrassdan]

I absolutely appreciate that you posted your honest mistake/oversight and then voluntarily made it right with the customer at your expense.

I have a hypothetical scenario for you. If you inadvertently stripped the reciever scope base screws on a custom build, would you send the finished rifle with the optic mounted to a customer without telling them? Or, fix the threads & tell the customer what happened? Or just ship it out and have the customer pay to return it once the problem manifested?

Well, if it is a brand new receiver that already had 8-40 screw holes, that presents a problem. You can go up to a #12 hole and make custom solid inserts, lock them in with a TIG bead, machine it back smooth, re drill and re tap back to 8-40 and move on (only after telling the customer you messed up and they agree on the fix) or if it is #6-48, you can re drill and up size to #8 screws, which I would recommend doing anyway. But if they do not like either option, you just bought a new receiver to replace the one that got screwed up. I am not aware of any new after market actions that still use #6 screws, so you really only have the two choices- get a new one or fill and re drill. Either way, own it. Tell them what you did and they determine how to proceed.

The above only applies to new actions. If you bring me an action that somebody has Loctited the base screws in and I can't get them out without putting them in the mill- I will let you know but there will be an extra charge for the machine time to fix it. I normally assume there is Loctite on the screws and try to melt it before trying to get the screws out, but sometimes they break off instead or tear out the threads.

As a PSA, if you insist on Loctiting your base screws in, please use the blue and never the red. At some point, for whatever reason, you will probably want to take the base off and life is much easier and less costly if you just use the blue and for gods sake, you don't need a 3 foot cheater bar on the wrench to tighten the damn screws. Nothing cheap about a broken screw in the base that has been put in with red Loctite.

 

[Redmt]

If you think the red loctite is bad then you definitely wouldn't like what we call "green death" . I have glued bearings in final drives of dozers. The end of the world will have cockroaches and Green Loctite.

 

[bluegrassdan]

If you think the red loctite is bad then you definitely wouldn't like what we call "green death" . I have glued bearings in final drives of dozers. The end of the world will have cockroaches and Green Loctite.

Use it for retaining compound in the shop for close fitting parts on shafts, steel inserts for bolt lugs in aluminum actions...good stuff but takes at least 450 degrees to begin softening.

 

[ImBillT]

If you uniform your primer pockets(OP says he does) then I don’t understand how hand priming can be inferior to anything else. My cheap RCBS with a tray makes it pretty darn quick.

That said, I can’t say that I’ve ever tested it. I would be interested see some well done direct comparisons of velocity data, including statistical analysis to determine whether the results were statistically significant. I do know hat many claim poor primer seating contributes to velocity spread, and I can imagine how pockets that have not been uniformed could result in some primers slipping forward when struck by the firing pin, and others not, and I could see how a special priming tool could reduce or eliminate that issue. I’m a little lost on anything changing if primer pockets were uniformed. But like I say, I haven’t tested it personally. My 6.5-257AI usually produces single digit SD’s, and I hand prime. It only does so with the primers that I worked the load with. It’s a good load. Maybe better priming could make other loads and other rifles perform a little better?

 

[ImBillT]

My gosh that guy handled this thread poorly! I appreciated his offer to buy it back and pay the OP for his trouble, but the hatred of someone having a problem and posting a thread was crazy! I shouldn’t be surprised that he never made good on his promise. He seemed like a real jerk in the post.

I stopped purchasing LE Wilson dies over what should have been a very simple return and replacement that turned into the new part owner shouting me down, calling me names, and telling me that he didn’t want my business anymore. The original owner brought in a partner to help them upgrade to CNC equipment. The CS person on the phone knew less about guns than the average cashier at Walmart, and told me that in over ten years, Wilson had never made a mistake. That resulted in me wanting to speak to someone who understood the terms that I was using, and before I knew it, the new part owner was going ape $#!+ on me. Turns out they had run the 260 Remington program on a batch of sizers and seaters labeled 257 Roberts. He said he didn’t want my business anymore and I haven’t bought a Wilson die since. I wish I could have spoken to a Wilson.