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I didn't realize there were so many liberals on this site.

As I watch the news shows on tv all the liberals are against guns and the only thing they are worried about is the NRA. you don't hear them talking about any other org.

It seems funny all you guys that won't support the NRA but that is who is the biggest obstical to the anti gun people.

I bet it will be just like gay marriage and health care .....like it or not you're getting it. I joined the NRA and will support them !

Why is it ok to protect the president with auto. weapens but not our children in school ? I bet if you talked to any parent at Sandy Hook and asked them if they could relive that day and could have an armed guard in the school would.they ? I know I would.

America isn't what it used to be it is full of weak, meak, freaks and down right crazy people.
 
Deputy Neil Gardner was a 15-year veteran of the Jefferson County, Colo., Sheriff’s Office assigned as the uniformed officer at Columbine. According to an account compiled by the police department, Gardner fired on Harris but was unsuccessful in stopping him:

Gardner, seeing Harris working with his gun, leaned over the top of the car and fired four shots. He was 60 yards from the gunman. Harris spun hard to the right and Gardner momentarily thought he had hit him. Seconds later, Harris began shooting again at the deputy.

After the exchange of gunfire, Harris ran back into the building. Gardner was able to get on the police radio and called for assistance from other Sheriff’s units. "Shots in the building. I need someone in the south lot with me."

The second officer was Deputy Paul Smoker, a motorcycle patrolman who was near the school writing a speeding ticket. When he heard a dispatch of a woman injured at the high school, he responded. He, too, fired at Harris but didn't stop him.

LaPierre said having armed security on the scene is necessary so someone is there to shoot back. "The only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun," he said. "Would you rather have your 911 call bring a good guy with a gun from a mile away -- or a minute away?"

But in chaotic situations, it's often impossible to identify the "bad guy," as Smoker said in his account of Columbine: "There was an unknown inside a school. We didn't know who the 'bad guy' was but we soon realized the sophistication of their weapons. These were big bombs. Big guns. We didn’t have a clue who 'they' were."

"That's the point," said Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.) at a press conference on Friday afternoon, denouncing LaPierre's solution. "There were two armed law enforcement officers at that campus, and you see what happened. Fifteen dead ... 23 wounded."

New Jersey Chris Christie (R) also said on Friday that he doesn't believe having armed guards will make schools safer or encourage learning.

On Wednesday, violence prevention researchers and a large number of education, health and civic groups discouraged putting more guns in schools.

"Inclinations to intensify security in schools should be reconsidered," they wrote in a statement. "We cannot and should not turn our schools into fortresses. Effective prevention cannot wait until there is a gunman in a school parking lot. We need resources such as mental health supports and threat assessment teams in every school and community so that people can seek assistance when they recognize that someone is troubled and requires help."

Research also has shown that highly visible efforts to increase school safety -- such as armed guards -- make children feel less safe at school, undermining their ability to learn.
Barefooter- A few things...not all liberals don't like guns. In fact many own a variety of guns. The NRA seems to have become more about $$$ than anything else...proven by the people they back and the laws they fight. The biggest obstacle to the anti-gun people has and always will be the US Constitution...and the Supreme Court. Now with precedent on the side of gun owners...it will need an amendment to the bill of rights...not likely to happen. Even with secret service, many armed personell, etc. it seems that one President was killed (Kennedy) and another was shot (Reagan). Ask them how well all that protection does...It really isn't the answer. But it may make you feel a safer (much like the TSA).
 
The liberal dems. sure seem worried about the NRA . I didn't see the media waiting on anyone else to make a statement. I have been a member of the NRA then stopped being a member because I was upset with them but right now I don't know of another org. that can help gun owners like the NRA can and once again I am a member

. Lets all get together and fight this battle then we can all get back to fighting each other at another time.
 
The liberal dems. sure seem worried about the NRA . I didn't see the media waiting on anyone else to make a statement. I have been a member of the NRA then stopped being a member because I was upset with them but right now I don't know of another org. that can help gun owners like the NRA can and once again I am a member

. Lets all get together and fight this battle then we can all get back to fighting each other at another time.


The NRA does not help gun owners. It fleeces gun owners for $$$$$ to help Gun Manufacturers. What a great scam.
 
Just because people have a different opinion than you, doesn't make them weak, meak, freaks and down right crazy.

Dustin, do you consider Jose's trolls to be meaningful discourse? I think he might just be one of the NRA's best spokesmen.
 
Dustin, do you consider Jose's trolls to be meaningful discourse? I think he might just be one of the NRA's best spokesmen.

They arent trolls unless some dumby bites...

Yes, I think differing opinions can lead to solutions.

I'm in the camp that the NRA stepped on their own ding dongs when they entered the arena on public lands management and wildlife management.

They dont know chit from clay about anything to do with either.

The NRA really made a huge mistake thinking they could fool hunters into joining their club by pretending to have the first clue about Sportsmens issues...

They should have stuck to what they "know"...
 
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