New USFWS Director

[INMT]

Nesvik

Just thought after around 5 pages without a post even mentioning his name it was worth touching on the topic. Now back to trail maintenance bitchin and moaning.

Reality Check thanks. I came into this post late and saw people bitchin about trail work. Can’t help myself

 

[Lota lota]

A friend used to (don’t know if he still does) run a trail crew in the Bob. He told me they went out one day to open up a trail they hadn’t been able to get to in a couple of years. Spent two days cutting out a 15ish mile section. A thunderstorm/microburst cam through and they spent two days cutting their way back out.

The misdirected anger and vengeance is amazing.

@Hunting Wife was right. We don’t deserve what we are blessed with.

Well they picked their occupations...I have to do my job so they should be expected to do theirs.

 

[El Jason]

She didn't actually, military did if you wanted to go back.

You probably should check your facts. If she didn’t get her job back, it was because she didn’t want it.

 

[Deleted member 52937]

How many man hours of labor were provided?

I’m not sure but I know a lot of people in the community volunteered their time. Donations and volunteer hours.

 

[El Jason]

Well they picked their occupations...I have to do my job so they should be expected to do theirs.

You’re completely missing the point.

They are doing their job. With very limited resources, a short work season, and unrealistic expectations by the public.

This was 15 miles of hundreds in their Ranger District, and that is just clearing the trails. It doesn’t get to building new boardwalks, putting in water bars, bridge maintenance, etc.

 

[El Jason]

I’m not sure but I know a lot of people in the community volunteered their time. Donations and volunteer hours.

That’s great. It shows how much can get done when you have funding and a lot of concurrent hours.

 

[INMT]

I’m not sure but I know a lot of people in the community volunteered their time. Donations and volunteer hours.

Report back here in 5 years and tell us how many drains have been cleaned, how many miles of brush have been cleared, how many feet of out sloped tread has been fixed.

It’s all to easy to be in involved in the shiny new construction and ribbon cutting but ever increasingly difficult to find volunteers or fund maintenance.

 

[Carnage2011]

Didn’t they also get their jobs back with back pay? But I’m sure you already knew that.

Four years later?

 

[Lota lota]

I can see the soft pink hands wringing and sitting on their asses,confused. They have never used a real tool.

I'd like to video lota lota bullchit working a crosscut in the Frank for a half a day.

That would be entertaining.

Shouldn't talk about a man when you don't know him. You don't know what I do for a living. I've cut many a trail out using a crosscut saw. I've never met you in my life and never threw any personal insults out. Must work for the Forest Service?

 

[Lota lota]

I can see the soft pink hands wringing and sitting on their asses,confused. They have never used a real tool.

Why don't you stick to worrying about yourself? Like I told BuzzH...you don't know me and have no idea what I do for a living.

 

[Lota lota]

You probably should check your facts. If she didn’t get her job back, it was because she didn’t want it.

Are you a game warden with Washington?

 

[Lota lota]

You’re completely missing the point.

They are doing their job. With very limited resources, a short work season, and unrealistic expectations by the public.

This was 15 miles of hundreds in their Ranger District, and that is just clearing the trails. It doesn’t get to building new boardwalks, putting in water bars, bridge maintenance, etc.

I'm not missing anything. If they (the forest service) would have kept up on maintenance of the forest we wouldn't be in this predicament.

 

[BuzzH]

Shouldn't talk about a man when you don't know him. You don't know what I do for a living. I've cut many a trail out using a crosscut saw. I've never met you in my life and never threw any personal insults out. Must work for the Forest Service?

Well good. With all that practice you should get back at it instead of whining.

 

[INMT]

Shouldn't talk about a man when you don't know him. You don't know what I do for a living. I've cut many a trail out using a crosscut saw. I've never met you in my life and never threw any personal insults out. Must work for the Forest Service?

It’s easy to throw slights when you start the chit talking. Many people disclose their jobs on here.

What is yours? What’s your crosscut experience?

Not chit talking, genuinely asking.

 

[Lota lota]

Well good. With all that practice you should get back at it instead of whining.

Isn't the Forest Service supposed to do that though? Maintain Trails etc.?

 

[BuzzH]

I'm not missing anything. If they (the forest service) would have kept up on maintenance of the forest we wouldn't be in this predicament.

With no funding and hiring freezes for nearly a decade, just how, in the actual hell is that supposed to happen?

 

[BuzzH]

Isn't the Forest Service supposed to do that though? Maintain Trails etc.?

If they have funding and can hire, yes.

No funding, no hiring, no trail work...isn't complicated.

This latest idiotic move is going to make things worse.

Congratulations?

 

[Lota lota]

It’s easy to throw slights when you start the chit talking. Many people disclose their jobs on here.

What is yours? What’s your crosscut experience?

Not chit talking, genuinely aski

It’s easy to throw slights when you start the chit talking. Many people disclose their jobs on here.

What is yours? What’s your crosscut experience?

Not chit talking, genuinely asking.

I worked for the FS for several years maintaining trails (or attempting to). I now work in Law Enforcement for a different agency.

 

[Lota lota]

If they have funding and can hire, yes.

No funding, no hiring, no trail work...isn't complicated.

This latest idiotic move is going to make things worse.

Congratulations?

Maybe it'll wake them up? I'm excited.

 

[BuzzH]

I worked for the FS for several years maintaining trails (or attempting to). I now work in Law Enforcement for a different agency.

How long ago?