The Hedgehog
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5 shots fired with my rifle, 5 animals didn't take more than 3 steps this fall.
Seated (not prone) shot this fall at 778 yards.
New Scope | 300 yards in low-light
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5 shots fired with my rifle, 5 animals didn't take more than 3 steps this fall.
Seated (not prone) shot this fall at 778 yards.
Mr. UML
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Not dubious at all. I'm not happy with my optic and am seeking something that can give me more of what I want. Asking for input on those optics. Simple.
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That's good shooting. Unfortunately, the type of rifle you were using is not legal in my area of Michigan.
I’m assuming 108x power?
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Probably 300x
The Hedgehog
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Straight 10X - clearly insufficient for Mr. UMLs musket which needs 40x
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Why not use a .350 Legend with a 200x scope?
Mr. UML
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Straight 10X - clearly insufficient for Mr. UMLs musket which needs 40x
It's true
The Hedgehog
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@Mr. UML This would go nicely on your musket. High end and necessary/suitable for your 300 yard hunting applications.
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The Hedgehog
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I've a friend about the off load his Schmidt 10X42pmii. He says too much magnification for him (thankfully I'm not seeing that as a problem for me), and with a little education/usage this would be your top pick for the under $2K price point.
Unfortunately for you, I'll be buying it for one of my rifles.
Unfortunately for you, I'll be buying it for one of my rifles.
Legend vs Ultimate; what’s the more grandiose name?
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The Hedgehog
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Wait, I see schmidt has higher magnification, which may be a suitable match for a muzzleloader of such precision accuracy..
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Thread 'Deer Hunting: Is the .350 Legend bound to be the "thirty aught six" for the straight-wall-cartridge eastern states?'
https://www.hunttalk.com/threads/de...traight-wall-cartridge-eastern-states.318686/
https://www.hunttalk.com/threads/de...traight-wall-cartridge-eastern-states.318686/
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Some light reading:
Best Remington ultimate ML loads | Muzzleloader Hunting
Recently purchased one, looking for suggestions on YOUR best load you’ve found. I shot the recommended load and Bullet by Remington and wasn’t pleased. I know it will shoot better than that, just trying to narrow it down a little by asking for others advice. im not interest on the arrowhead...www.monstermuleys.info
Huh, never knew Remington made muzzle loaders while John Holmes was alive
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@The Hedgehog - The 6-36x56mm has that "Leupold" cross hair I'm not a fan of. The other scope doesn't have illumination.
@Dave N - For many people 3-9x would be fine. The average muzzleloader hunter isn't sitting over 35 acres of field and facing the shots that I am.
@TheJason - The .350 Legend cannot compare to the stank a .50cal muzzleloader puts down. Many people in my family use the 350's and they have to track their deer a good ways (80-200 yards). Mine never move 5 steps.
@Dave N - For many people 3-9x would be fine. The average muzzleloader hunter isn't sitting over 35 acres of field and facing the shots that I am.
@TheJason - The .350 Legend cannot compare to the stank a .50cal muzzleloader puts down. Many people in my family use the 350's and they have to track their deer a good ways (80-200 yards). Mine never move 5 steps.
And by your own admission YOU are an average muzzleloader hunter. It doesn't matter what you buy to shoot. If you are getting 2-3" groups at 200 like you said, you shouldn't be trying to hunt at 300. It's just. Too. Far. I don't give two shits about hitting a gong. You should think twice about it. Just because something is advertised to do something doesn't mean everyone can. And please, if you can't make something out in low light you shouldn't try to shoot it! Brighter scopes won't change the fact that it's too dark. Sometimes people have to know their limits and just watch when deer are out of EFFECTIVE range. 35 acres could be 80. Then what? Use your telescope and shoot 300 at paper. A lot. Then you can see just what you are doing. Forget about steel.
Darryle
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Okay, then why do you need a higher magnification?
I will agree that you have been given good advice from most, tube diameter and objective don't necessarily contribute to better resolution or perceived light gathering, it is coatings
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