Brock you extended the invitation to sit down in person on messenger to engage in conversation and even help find some path forward
I was merely trying to determine if open discussion was what you actually sought …. Why you stopped those discussions in the open forum of the Back Country FB page where everyone could see and be a part of them ?
Thanks for posting that graph and if you would allow I can point out a couple spots that “ hurt” ALL ND sportsmen and women
In the peak of your graph that shows several years of record high tag numbers allotted …. What was the management plan number of allotted tags the NDG&F said would give the sportsmen a HEALTHY and SUSTAINABLE deer herd in ND ?
To save you the trouble of searching it was 75,000 tags allotted
So the question I would pose you are as follows
Given the average life cycle of a deer in ND is roughly 3 years …. What happens when a population is allowed to DOUBLE and remain there for a time frame longer than one “generation” of that deer herd ?
Now what your graph does not show is the history of what was viewed by many as “ habitat” during that same decade of RECORD high deer numbers
CRP made great fawning habitat ….Thermal cover during the winter months …. Not so much as in ND the winters tend to blow in CRP full of snow so the deer leave and travel miles to areas with that type of thermal cover and food sources …. In ND that translates to ranch yards
There were millions of acres of CRP in ND leading up to those RECORD deer populations….but what fid those winter habitat thermal cover area acres do? Grow accordingly to match increase fawning habitat ? No they stayed constant
So what happens when you have twice as many fawns born than what your winter habitat will hold ?
Perhaps you didn’t haul out many dead deer from the Badlands where you hunt the spring of O8 but in our ranch yard … even after bringing in hunters that took over 100 deer out of the herd of 650 that yarded up at our ranch … we still hauled out over 130 dead deer that next spring
Brock have you ever seen 650 deer feeding at a silage pile or eating hay mixed among 300 cows ?
Brock have you ever drug 130 dead deer out of your yard and placed them in a pile ?
If you have not ever seen or done those things perhaps you don’t understand why questions would be asked of the agency tasked with managing the health and sustainability of the states deer herd for the public good
If you could Brock could you share an easy to read graph of the fluctuations in hunter success percentages fro that period from 2000 to now … it is an interesting overlay of the allotted tag numbers
Thanks I am interested to hear your answers to each of those questions
I was merely trying to determine if open discussion was what you actually sought …. Why you stopped those discussions in the open forum of the Back Country FB page where everyone could see and be a part of them ?
Thanks for posting that graph and if you would allow I can point out a couple spots that “ hurt” ALL ND sportsmen and women
In the peak of your graph that shows several years of record high tag numbers allotted …. What was the management plan number of allotted tags the NDG&F said would give the sportsmen a HEALTHY and SUSTAINABLE deer herd in ND ?
To save you the trouble of searching it was 75,000 tags allotted
So the question I would pose you are as follows
Given the average life cycle of a deer in ND is roughly 3 years …. What happens when a population is allowed to DOUBLE and remain there for a time frame longer than one “generation” of that deer herd ?
Now what your graph does not show is the history of what was viewed by many as “ habitat” during that same decade of RECORD high deer numbers
CRP made great fawning habitat ….Thermal cover during the winter months …. Not so much as in ND the winters tend to blow in CRP full of snow so the deer leave and travel miles to areas with that type of thermal cover and food sources …. In ND that translates to ranch yards
There were millions of acres of CRP in ND leading up to those RECORD deer populations….but what fid those winter habitat thermal cover area acres do? Grow accordingly to match increase fawning habitat ? No they stayed constant
So what happens when you have twice as many fawns born than what your winter habitat will hold ?
Perhaps you didn’t haul out many dead deer from the Badlands where you hunt the spring of O8 but in our ranch yard … even after bringing in hunters that took over 100 deer out of the herd of 650 that yarded up at our ranch … we still hauled out over 130 dead deer that next spring
Brock have you ever seen 650 deer feeding at a silage pile or eating hay mixed among 300 cows ?
Brock have you ever drug 130 dead deer out of your yard and placed them in a pile ?
If you have not ever seen or done those things perhaps you don’t understand why questions would be asked of the agency tasked with managing the health and sustainability of the states deer herd for the public good
If you could Brock could you share an easy to read graph of the fluctuations in hunter success percentages fro that period from 2000 to now … it is an interesting overlay of the allotted tag numbers
Thanks I am interested to hear your answers to each of those questions