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The racist ones?...where republicans align more with old school dems
The MT guys keep saying they want better candidates. Can someone give me a list of the things they want to hear? I would generally say that voting Americans are a diverse group, but the trend of the presidential victors over the last 45 years is to dumb stuff down. No one wants the details or hear about complexities of tradeoffs. Stay simple and tell them they will benefit $$$ and while giving up nothing. It doesn't even have to be true.
A democrat governor candidate that doesn’t work for the gun control lobby would be a good start. You can laugh that off all you want, but it is a major issue here.The MT guys keep saying they want better candidates. Can someone give me a list of the things they want to hear? I would generally say that voting Americans are a diverse group, but the trend of the presidential victors over the last 45 years is to dumb stuff down. No one wants the details or hear about complexities of tradeoffs. Stay simple and tell them they will benefit $$$ and while giving up nothing. It doesn't even have to be true.
Great. But hard to believe you still elected Steve Bullock twice and his NRA rating is F, which I don’t think stands for fantastic.A democrat governor candidate that doesn’t work for the gun control lobby would be a good start. You can laugh that off all you want, but it is a major issue here.
...there it is
An NRA rating is a far cry from writing a book and working for an anti gun lobby group. Also, Steve Bullock is a long ways from the past two democrat candidates in MT. I don’t see Montana going purple anytime soon unless they come forward with a very moderate candidate.Great. But hard to believe you still elected Steve Bullock twice and his NRA rating is F, which I don’t think stands for fantastic.
Sure. I get that. What was Cooney's problem in 2020?An NRA rating is a far cry from writing a book and working for an anti gun lobby group. Also, Steve Bullock is a long ways from the past two democrat candidates in MT. I don’t see Montana going purple anytime soon unless they come forward with a very moderate candidate.
I predict Knudsen will be our next Governor.Sure. I get that. What was Cooney's problem in 2020?
Hind sight is always 20/20. I just think that "guns" is an oversimplification of Montanans general decision when they walk into the booth. When I look at the historical results, Montana is all over the place, especially in the Governor races. Again, paint your perfect candidate. I'm sure the Dem party would love to see it. And then find someone to run and subject themselves to the scrutiny.
Once GG terms out, it will be very interesting given the anti-public land and anti-FWP sentiment Knudsen has shown. Good luck.
Montana needs me telling them what to do like a fish needs a bicycle....what am I missingSure. I get that. What was Cooney's problem in 2020?
Hind sight is always 20/20. I just think that "guns" is an oversimplification of Montanans general decision when they walk into the booth. When I look at the historical results, Montana is all over the place, especially in the Governor races. Again, paint your perfect candidate. I'm sure the Dem party would love to see it. And then find someone to run and subject themselves to the scrutiny.
Once GG terms out, it will be very interesting given the anti-public land and anti-FWP sentiment Knudsen has shown. Good luck.
The MT guys keep saying they want better candidates. Can someone give me a list of the things they want to hear? I would generally say that voting Americans are a diverse group, but the trend of the presidential victors over the last 45 years is to dumb stuff down. No one wants the details or hear about complexities of tradeoffs. Stay simple and tell them they will benefit $$$ and while giving up nothing. It doesn't even have to be true.
Guns Giffords donated a chit ton of $ to push their agenda and to have their Senior Advisor at the helm of Montana... the optics alone rates as a huge win for Giffords, border security USMCA, Criminal Sanctuary Cities - all the other platform agendas the fringe (including Giffords - remember on their page they seek to regulate bb guns...) push for their payment to assist the person into office.Sure. I get that. What was Cooney's problem in 2020?
Hind sight is always 20/20. I just think that "guns" is an oversimplification of Montanans general decision when they walk into the booth. When I look at the historical results, Montana is all over the place, especially in the Governor races. Again, paint your perfect candidate. I'm sure the Dem party would love to see it. And then find someone to run and subject themselves to the scrutiny.
Once GG terms out, it will be very interesting given the anti-public land and anti-FWP sentiment Knudsen has shown. Good luck
I respectfully think you are completely wrong.This.
Democrats caused this. Time they look in the mirror vs pretending it's everyone else's fault.
An interesting comparison:
Quist vs Gianforte: 6% win.
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Busse vs Gianforte: 22% win.
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Says volumes when Quist held 16% more voting power than Busse.
Democrats nationally need to revamp their platform and present options viable to vote.
I doubt a single person here thought Busse had a chance. Again, look in the mirror. It's time for a change from the inside.
I'm not "telling" them to do anything. Just trying to understand what kind of candidate they want to see. Maybe I'll move back there.Montana needs me telling them what to do like a fish needs a bicycle....what am I missing
True. I think the discussion is more about American voters in general and not specific to Montana. I do like looking back at how Montana voted and ask "what drove that?'. Voters do stuff for weird reasons. People hate inflation and just voted in the guy with a "Reflation" agenda. But that is too much in the weeds....abandon the identity-politics BS, and issues x,y,z,b,c,
Should change the poll now that it’s over and ask if people voted the line or not. My ballot had r/d on it I tried to vote for the person not the partyI respectfully think you are completely wrong.
The complaint the last go round was that Quist was an idiot, that was an argument about a person (right, wrong, or indifferent). Now it's that Busse is a Democrat. That it's a party issue. The fact that people can't separate party from person is the $*)Q!#@$ problem. And that boils down to tribalism, lack of critical through, and people spending too much friggin' time in their own political echo chambers.
You could make the argument that members of congress can be viewed as more "party based" because it is shocking how much unity is required by the party to maintain support during election cycles. But for State gov't? Com'on it should be about the person, not the party. As I've said before, our R's are Montana's Ds, if you look take a look at an individual's actual policy stances... which clearly people don't do.