Still been radio silence from him to me. I’m going to guess he’s not calling
Didn’t think I said anything in my email that would piss him off.
Montana Mule Deer Mismanagement
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Didn’t think I said anything in my email that would piss him off.I’ve met with them twice individually as well as the meetings they have put on. Each time it’s “the data shows different. Surveys agree hunters want opportunity over quality. Need to just gain access to private. Just not hunting hard enough. With cwd there’s no way we can manage differently. Numbers look great compared to the ten year average”. It’s the same story every time yet things continue to decline.
huntin24/7
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It seems like we keep hearing the same mantra “hunters want opportunity over quality”. That’s fine. I totally get it. I’m probably starting to sound like a broken record, but why is 5 weeks of rifle during the entire rut the only option considered as opportunity. A month of archery is a lot of opportunity. 3-5 weeks of rifle during October or including the early part of November and beginning of the rut seems like an opportunity. Seasons shouldn’t be primarily set up for those who want to experience success with minimal effort.
Forgot. Have mentioned ending season before thanksgiving weekend. “People don’t want to give up their tradition”
huntin24/7
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Haha. Good point. Forgot that one. People tend to have this misconception that all traditions are good and that they can’t ever change. I think taking the family on a bird hunting walk, calling coyotes, goose hunting, or fishing, etc., sounds just as fun as blasting a thanksgiving buck. But that’s just one opinion.
This provides the best "opportunity". mtmuley
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Mule deer populations are directly related to winter food availability. 50% of winter food for mule deer is browse, check out the attached pic from the book "Wild migrations".
If you look at old videos of hunts, vacations, John Denver playing the guitar, etc.. you'll see that logging was a big part of the landscape in the 70s and early 80s.
Logging creates great browsing opportunities for mule deer and is especially helpful when feet of snow are on the ground.
I'd love to see more logging! Imagine areas we all know where the NF meets the BLM, let's log these area and watch the deer numbers improve.
If you look at old videos of hunts, vacations, John Denver playing the guitar, etc.. you'll see that logging was a big part of the landscape in the 70s and early 80s.
Logging creates great browsing opportunities for mule deer and is especially helpful when feet of snow are on the ground.
I'd love to see more logging! Imagine areas we all know where the NF meets the BLM, let's log these area and watch the deer numbers improve.
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Little bit of logging opportunity off in the distance but not a lot in eastern Montana
I won’t disagree that logging can help with browse and grazing conditions but it also typically comes with road building and a serious loss in wildlife security. I live in the heart of northern idaho logging country and most of the deer I see grouped up this time of year are in the big old timber stands that have shelter, thermal cover and less snow on the ground. The clearcuts are full of deep crusty snow right now
brownbear932008
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This right here can't be screamed loud enough in my opinion. No truer words have been spoken. They put way to much trust in thinking their (name your state) game department knows what they are doing.
JEL
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I am guessing he has bigger things to worry about.Still been radio silence from him to me. I’m going to guess he’s not calling
https://helenair.com/news/state-and...cle_9b8aac72-2405-521d-869d-3e1aa0d2736c.html
Listening session regarding mule deer management being held in Glasgow March 15
GLASGOW –Montana Fish, Wildlife & Parks is holding a public listening session regarding mule deer management in Region 6 in northeast Montana. The listening session is from 6-8 p.m. at the Cottonwood Inn in Glasgow on Wednesday, March 15. Hunters, landowners, and wildlife enthusiasts are encouraged to attend.
Region 6 wildlife staff will provide a background on mule deer management, the current status of mule deer populations in the region, trends in hunters and harvest, and an update on CWD. Following the presentation, the floor will be open for dialogue between public participants and FWP staff.
The intent of this session is for FWP to have a chance to hear various concerns, questions, and perspectives from the interested public. There will be no decisions made during this listening session.
The Busted Knuckle opens at 1600 and rumor has it @Schaaf has an open tab on demand. Three pints in 90 minutes with half hour left over for a little pre-meeting banter with FWP staff. Wish I could make it.
GLASGOW –Montana Fish, Wildlife & Parks is holding a public listening session regarding mule deer management in Region 6 in northeast Montana. The listening session is from 6-8 p.m. at the Cottonwood Inn in Glasgow on Wednesday, March 15. Hunters, landowners, and wildlife enthusiasts are encouraged to attend.
Region 6 wildlife staff will provide a background on mule deer management, the current status of mule deer populations in the region, trends in hunters and harvest, and an update on CWD. Following the presentation, the floor will be open for dialogue between public participants and FWP staff.
The intent of this session is for FWP to have a chance to hear various concerns, questions, and perspectives from the interested public. There will be no decisions made during this listening session.
The Busted Knuckle opens at 1600 and rumor has it @Schaaf has an open tab on demand. Three pints in 90 minutes with half hour left over for a little pre-meeting banter with FWP staff. Wish I could make it.
Schaaf
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Absolutely, free beer is free beer. The new German Alt Bier is
My kids say the cream soda’s better than the root beer though.
Be curious how similar this presentation will be compared to the region 7 one
Schaaf
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Kinda what I figured. People aren’t actually seeing what they think they are seeing is basically what it’s about. Also when big private landowners call in to say they are also seeing declining numbers it’s their fault for not getting ahold of biologists
pigsticker
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Will this be live streamed in some sort of fashion so people who can't attend can listen in?
406huntermt
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Hopefully something changes up here! pretty sure the region 6 fwp is going to get an earful from everyone in attendance! The residents of region 6 I think have had enough of the mismanagement of mule deer up here and it’s time for some serious changes. We can only hope that it happens at least.
It will not be available on-line.
