Montana General Season Structure Proposal

[Shed God]

I will best that dead horse and die on that hill. Maybe it best I shut the #*^@#* up.

 

[8andcounting]

3%? 5%? 20%? 35%? What are you considering small?

My guess is 10-15%

 

[Forkyfinder]

I will best that dead horse and die on that hill. Maybe it best I shut the #*^@#* up.

No - I dont think you should shut up.

I think you should re-think whats possible and not whats ideal to you.

My guess is 10-15%

Id wager about double that.

 

[8andcounting]

No - I dont think you should shut up.

I think you should re-think whats possible and not whats ideal to you.

Id wager about double that.

No. Majority of Montana R want 0 change

 

[SwaggyD]

No - I dont think you should shut up.

I think you should re-think whats possible and not whats ideal to you.

This.

 

[SwaggyD]

Id wager about double that.

And this.

 

[Forkyfinder]

No. Majority of Montana R want 0 change

And my child always wants more milk - too much and she'll shit herself and ruin the whole situation.

See the parallel?

 

[DFS]

I will best that dead horse and die on that hill. Maybe it best I shut the #*^@#* up.

I actually appreciate your incoherent ramble and find some value to it. Unlimited LE would nail fwp down with resident and nonresident hunter numbers per region or unit. Get a group of well educated experienced guys and get another proposal out there.

 

[8andcounting]

And my child always wants more milk - too much and she'll shit herself and ruin the whole situation.

See the parallel?

It’s not a parallel . What’s done is done

 

[8andcounting]

And my child always wants more milk - too much and she'll shit herself and ruin the whole situation.

See the parallel?

You see - you’re in the minority? Or do you need special help ? Maybe someone who can see parallels?

 

[cgasner1]

I actually appreciate your incoherent ramble and find some value to it. Unlimited LE would nail fwp down with resident and nonresident hunter numbers per region or unit. Get a group of well educated experienced guys and get another proposal out there.

Please do. We by no means think we have all the answers. This is just what a group of guys came up with. I’m for any change is good change if you can beat us out and go all le good on you

 

[Gerald Martin]

I actually appreciate your incoherent ramble and find some value to it. Unlimited LE would nail fwp down with resident and nonresident hunter numbers per region or unit. Get a group of well educated experienced guys and get another proposal out there.

Two well thought out proposals with backers of each being presented to the commission for acceptance would be awesome! That would definitely help make the point that MT hunters want change, not withstanding FWP’s interpretation of the mule deer survey.

 

[Forkyfinder]

You see - you’re in the minority? Or do you need special help ? Maybe someone who can see parallels?

Do you have a proposal? Or are you in agreement with the survey?

I dont think a survey of 5k hunters determines everything either - and ill bet if things continue this way for too long the survey will lead to different results in 2030 or whenever they get around to doing it again. By then - it might already be too late. By the way - doe blasting ended - and that survey showed that people like that too.

Its funny. Cause ill probably never hunt a public land mule deer again - so for me personally - this will hurt my ability to harvest a nicer buck. I still want this because it sucks for herd health as outlined all over in this thread by people smarter than me.

 

[8andcounting]

Do you have a proposal? Or are you in agreement with the survey?

I dont think a survey of 5k hunters determines everything either - and ill bet if things continue this way for too long the survey will lead to different results in 2030 or whenever they get around to doing it again. By then - it might already be too late. By the way - doe blasting ended - and that survey showed that people like that too.

Its funny. Cause I’ll probably never hunt a public land mule deer again - so for me personally - this will hurt my ability to harvest a nicer buck. I still want this because it sucks for herd health as outlined all over in this thread by people smarter than me.

I think Montana needs a change when it comes to mule deer . I don’t think it has to be the first proposal. I commend the guys on the committee. They make some good points . I think go Le statewide and rip the bandaid off

 

[Forkyfinder]

I think Montana needs a change when it comes to mule deer . I don’t think it has to be the first proposal. I commend the guys on the committee. They make some good points . I think go Le statewide and rip the bandaid off

Get on the @DFS @Shed God train and get another proposal going.

Id agree that true managed LE would be better in the existing arrangement.

 

[8andcounting]

Get on the @DFS @Shed God train and get another proposal going.

Id agree that true managed LE would be better in the existing arrangement.

Not on anyone’s train . Just what I see been hunting Montana since I was a teen in the 90s love the state . But it needs help when it comes to md

 

[DFS]

Get on the @DFS @Shed God train and get another proposal going.

Id agree that true managed LE would be better in the existing arrangement.

Just to be clear I fully support the proposal as is. Shed god has some good thoughts and all I was saying is he should get to it, and see how much traction he can gain because something needs to happen ASAP.

 

[8andcounting]

The proposal doesn’t guarantee help to the deer herd , in some ways it does more damage in my opinion. LE is the only sure way

 

[Jon Boy]

We can all argue about the “best” way to manage, but without good data that we all can access and trust, our best educated guesses about how hunters affect wildlife populations will always be less educated than they could be with better data.

Mandatory reporting isn’t going to to change the needs for area biologists to continue their biological surveys and monitoring of the health of habitat and resources. However, I think they’ll be even better able to make good management decisions if they have solid data on how hunters are interacting with and affecting wildlife.

I love this part of the proposal and couldn’t agree more. It would be an awesome resource for both managers and hunters to know exactly how many hunters are hunting a given unit and what they are harvesting.

 

[Sioux33]

Colorado is arguably the best mule deer state in the west and they have damn near the same exact season dates as us, this year it’s 10/26-11/24. The difference is they actually manage how many people can hunt at separate times during that stretch. Something like that seems a lot more realistic to pass, doesn’t change anything for elk annd doesn’t add any extra stress on landowners. Unless I’m really missing something, wouldn’t this be worth looking into?

Edit: I know CO isn’t OTC, but you could have a portion of the season before the rut be OTC to satisfy the opportunity requirements that FWP will demand.