Maybe show up and ask to end the harvest of mule deer does when populations are struggling. Habitat doesn’t do much good without deer.
Montana Elk Management Survey Results
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SAJ-99
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The number of B tags are a function of the MD AHM model. That is fully determined by FWP. I have a lot of criticisms of the way they use the model, but I'm not going to hold that against BHA or MOGA or anyone else. FWP has to own that.
I don’t disagree. It would be nice to see BHA advocate for mule deer like they will for elk. When you hold the golden ticket of deer tags you have a platform.
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I agree. I am not sure why it doesn't go to MDF.
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Whichever organization sells the tag, the money goes to FWP. What the organization does as their mission isn’t directly relevant to how FWP spends the money.
BHA’s pitch was that they intended to award the tag by raffle rather than to the highest bidder. They are hoping to raise as much money as it would have brought at auction by keeping the chance for a tag within reach of everyone.
BHA’s pitch was that they intended to award the tag by raffle rather than to the highest bidder. They are hoping to raise as much money as it would have brought at auction by keeping the chance for a tag within reach of everyone.
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Well, thanks to BHA for thinking of the peasants.
Do you (or anyone else) know if there is any type audit for the money to ensure it is spent where intended?It seems every group is suffering from bad PR. I just wonder if maybe more transparency would help?
I know there is this article
MDF does less than BHA. None of the groups besides MOGA have had a presence for advocating for mule deer.
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Audit for BHA or for FWP? Pretty sure all organizations keep 10% for selling costs and pass on 90% to FWP.
Mtnhunter1
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The reason that "Our" FWPs fudged the survey is in bold print above. Gotta push a false narrative to the masses in order to accomplish possible future changes. Thanks to BHA for calling out the misrepresentation.
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FWP. My only concern for BHA would be the money gets spent on something in Colorado or something. I'm sure the group that sells it has it's own audit, and FWP has, well whatever the state has, and its published in an article in its own publication.
Mtnhunter1
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This is a thread regarding the bogus elk hunter survey but I am curious what MOGA has done to advocate for mule deer in Montana?
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I’d be surprised if it doesn’t cost BHA more than 10% to promote the tag and run the raffle.
It turned into a thread of BHA questioning the elk survey. The same survey that was sent for mule deer and has been sent several times over a long period of time. Now BHA holds the golden ticket of mule deer tags.
antlerradar
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I wouldn't go that far. I can think of a few that make good money shooting bucks that leave Public in search of does.
Mtnhunter1
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I read the results of both the resident and nonresident mule deer surveys. The resident survey outcome was similar to the elk survey that this thread is all about. The nonresidents are a bit more content with Montana's mule deer management.
I will be purchasing a few chances from BHA for the mule deer drawing as I respect what they are doing.
Now MOGA auctioning off the moose tag? That'll make the Moss-Back crew look like a rural Sunday school group!
I will be purchasing a few chances from BHA for the mule deer drawing as I respect what they are doing.
Now MOGA auctioning off the moose tag? That'll make the Moss-Back crew look like a rural Sunday school group!
They already have a sizable bank account.
BLM Announces $3.5 million partnership with Mule Deer Foundation - Mule Deer Foundation
BLM Director Tracy Stone-Manning was joined by leaders of the Mule Deer Foundation, and Trout Unlimited to make the announcement and share details about how the investments will help local western communities. This includes funding for potential projects in Arizona, California, Colorado, Idaho...
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Worth the read. One opinion or another. To each his/her own.
I'm happy to see biologists and students involved. Places more "reality" beyond extreme pendulum action.
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I'm happy to see biologists and students involved. Places more "reality" beyond extreme pendulum action.
Elk research: UM scientists, students study a changing population
A new management plan released by Montana Fish, Wildlife and Parks last year has accelerated matters concerning elk.
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