Montana 2025 Legislative Session

[Flynarrow]

And you wonder why people worry about grizzlies well being if they were delisted and management was at the whim of a Montana legislative body?

 

[TheJason]

And you wonder why people worry about grizzlies well being if they were delisted and management was at the whim of a Montana legislative body?

Trust us they say…

 

[Hunting Wife]

Not at all a proponent of shoving it in their faces. I come from the camp of being conscientious about our image and how we represent ourselves. I’m just saying that we shouldn’t have to continually tip toe around management practices to avoid upsetting the antis. Wolves are their sacred cows, I understand that. Just tired of it. It’s not going to change. I also forget the political climate is different there and there’s a proven track record of judges that rule against us.

I have seen zero scientific evidence supporting unlimited seasons on wolves in Montana. If you have seen otherwise, please post it up. Otherwise, I’m not sure how advocating for science-based and ethical management of wolves constitutes tiptoeing around to appease anti’s.

Just trying to drill down to whether we are operating in the realm of opinion or science-based facts.

Are you against year round coyote hunting, prairie dogs, badgers, foxes, rabbits, marmot, etc too? Not sure I’ve seen a coyote den full of dead pups picture but it’s probably out there. Just curious

None of these have been even close to listing under the ESA. This is a nonsensical argument.

 

[Elktrack]

I have seen zero scientific evidence supporting unlimited seasons on wolves in Montana. If you have seen otherwise, please post it up. Otherwise, I’m not sure how advocating for science-based and ethical management of wolves constitutes tiptoeing around to appease anti’s.

Just trying to drill down to whether we are operating in the realm of opinion or science-based facts.

I’m not going to get into one of your contests of who can cite the most studies and what scientific evidence I have to support my opinion just so you can show off your superior intellect as a game department employee. I can’t regurgitate study information like you do.

My opinion was based on the scientific evidence that the state of Idaho has a year round season and it hasn’t led to over harvesting and ESA re listing. It’s a way for the state to try and keep their numbers in check which I thought was the point of the discussion.

So yeah, I’m operating in the realm of opinion here based on the “scientific evidence “ of observing a management tool being used to manage wolf numbers by a state agency.

The tip toeing opinion is also based on personal observations and listening to fellow hunters comments. Perhaps I’m the only one that feels this way?
Just my opinion.
I’m sure you’ve never heard comments made about something not working because of how the antis are going to react or how they will just tie something up in court. I fully understand that we absolutely have to be strategic about management tools based on the opposition, I just don’t like it and I was voicing my opinion about it.