Messing up a wet dream - MTFWP big 3 draw

[noharleyyet]

 

[6mm Remington]

There was an out of state hunter LAST YEAR who put in for a ram tag for one of the units up near Thompson Falls. Only thing is the unit is closed for sheep hunting and no tags are allocated for the unit and has been for a couple years at least now. The population is not doing very well. SOMEHOW the Montana system drew him for a ram tag for that area. Well it was his mistake as he put in for a closed unit and it should have been bad on him although as seen from this years mess, Montana screwed up on a smaller scale last year also!

Instead of telling him sorry but you are shit out of luck, they "asked him" if he would accept a tag for another unit not too far away from (100 miles) where he initially applied. Yes that's correct FWP in their infinite wisdom said we'll just give you a ram tag in another unit. No problem that they had already drawn those tags and issued them to the correct recipients!!! He accepted their offer and shot a beautiful ram. Good for him, bad for every one who hoped to get one of these very special permits! They just allocated another ram tag like it just magically happened. No problem if that effects the population in that area or not. The guy screwed up and it should have been on him. In case you are wondering, the unit was the Petty Creek unit west of Missoula which is district 203-20. That is the unit they just decided to pull out of their ass and issue another one.

I've put in for 45 years in a row for moose and sheep and never drawn. I might never draw a tag but crap like this from last year, and this years debacle tend to piss a person off. They should make moose, sheep, goat, and bison once in a lifetime tags. No-one deserves to have more than one of these special tags. I am friends with a fellow who has drawn 3 - THREE RAM tags in Montana and shot 3 beautiful sheep. I know another fellow who shot a beautiful ram one year, waited the 7 year wait period, and drew another ram tag the very first year he could apply again. I have more examples of the same. No it won't greatly increase my odds or anyone else's odds to draw one of these amazing tags, but it sure as hell will prevent people from drawing multiple elusive tags. It also does give that poor bugger trying to get their FIRST TAG at least a chance!

Montana FWP needs to get their act together. It seems like every year as of late that some sort of a mess seems to happen.

 

[rogerthat]

I think Hank is on leave and blaming this on Jersey Greg is quite a stretch if we are being honest. I suspect these draw screwups are a symptom of the disease. Low pay, low morale, low employee input, lack of motivation , so on so forth.

 

[TheTone]

Draw issues like this are IMO more a computer problem than human; it’s not like a group of FWP employees are sitting around picking names out of a hat. That said doing a manual double check before they’re published should be getting done especially when tags issued exceeds the quota. Giving someone a tag somewhere else because they drew a unit that isn’t even open is just ridiculous

 

[Wild Bill]

Brenda, Joe, Mike, and Tom show up to their jobs at FWP after receiving their directives from Hank and Greg to botch the draw on purpose. They're happy to do it, of course, because they're not qualified and not the brightest and they don't get paid squat.

(according to tinfoil hat boomers)

 

[MTGomer]

In healthcare, we kill hundreds of Americans annually over simple medication errors similar to what occurred here.

The point system debacle is a bigger reason Hank needs to go than a few ram and bull moose tags. But sure, Hank should have set up better processes.

The ram/bull tags here should be awarded, but deferred to 2024 if needed. Those guys made plans already.

Think carefully before you outsource your jobs from Montana. Kalkomey might be sponsoring the influencer that endorses Kalkomey in the Billings Gazette.

I don’t give a shit if Kalkomey is sending their fee to Kim Jong-un, they do a damn good job with the draw

 

[Wild Bill]

Draw issues like this are IMO more a computer problem than human; it’s not like a group of FWP employees are sitting around picking names out of a hat. That said doing a manual double check before they’re published should be getting done especially when tags issued exceeds the quota. Giving someone a tag somewhere else because they drew a unit that isn’t even open is just ridiculous

Hit the nail on the head here. I'm not making excuses for the error(s), because it/they should have been caught, but ridiculing and discounting the abilities and intelligence of the entire dept is foolish.

 

[rogerthat]

(according to tinfoil hat boomers)

How do you tell what generation someone is from there posts?

 

[Wild Bill]

How do you tell what generation someone is from there posts?

Just generalizing since there's plenty of that going on already.

Would you prefer just the Tinfoil Hat label and leave the boomer part out?

 

[more_cowbell]

Only thing is the unit is closed for sheep hunting and no tags are allocated for the unit and has been for a couple years at least now. The population is not doing very well. SOMEHOW the Montana system drew him for a ram tag for that area. Well it was his mistake as he put in for a closed unit

MFWP should have probably made it so no one could apply for a closed unit

 

[rogerthat]

Just generalizing since there's plenty of that going on already.

Would you prefer just the Tinfoil Hat label and leave the boomer part out?

No I was just curious. I have been called a boomer many times but I’m just “mature” for my age.

 

[cgasner1]

How do you tell what generation someone is from there posts?

Usually has a link to cnn

 

[CPAjeff]

Dear MTFWP:

 

[rustednuts]

Draw issues like this are IMO more a computer problem than human; it’s not like a group of FWP employees are sitting around picking names out of a hat. That said doing a manual double check before they’re published should be getting done especially when tags issued exceeds the quota. Giving someone a tag somewhere else because they drew a unit that isn’t even open is just ridiculous

Computers only do what they are told. Somebody is screwing up the input & no one is validating. This is 100% a process error which is ultimately a human error.

 

[tjones]

How do you tell what generation someone is from there posts?

I hate social media all of it

Boomers are easy to spot. Most say they hate social media while posting on social media. Like a public hunting forum.

 

[rjthehunter]

I thought the same question…. Idk who would lead the charge though.

Someone with a lot of money and a point to prove!

 

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[Buschy]

Boomers are east to spot. Most say they hate social media while posting on social media. Like a public hunting forum.

Ouch. It feels like are talking directly to me.

 

[DouglasR]

God I just wish someone would shove a nalgene of boiling water up Greg’s ass!
The future of wealthy white peoples vacations depends on it!

 

[cgasner1]

Draw issues like this are IMO more a computer problem than human; it’s not like a group of FWP employees are sitting around picking names out of a hat. That said doing a manual double check before they’re published should be getting done especially when tags issued exceeds the quota. Giving someone a tag somewhere else because they drew a unit that isn’t even open is just ridiculous

Draw odds were probably pretty great for that unit with it not being in the regs I bet that guy just click submit on the ap and got lucky.