Ten Bears
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When I said <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR> Good to here,... <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> I meant it as a compliment. I hunt Turkeys because I get the tag in the package, same as I hunt mountain lions because the tag is in the package as well. If I had to buy the tag seperately I wouldn't spend the money. Does that clarify things? I never said that I was inconvienced by the tag, I just wouldn't buy it otherwise.
TROY, I have seen white turkeys in the flocks around here, but the local warden says that happens from time to time, and you still have to wait for a season to open and have a tag.
MARS, our quail around here (mostly) are from people buying them at the feed stores in the spring and releasing them around their place. Some have taken off and gone "wild", but a heavy winter will thin them out in short order.
I am more curious as we have had smaller flocks of forest grouse in the past (20+ years). I used to be able to find flock numbering up to 30 birds, but lately find smaller flocks of 2 - 8.
BUZZ, I don't see overgrazing were I'm at. We seldom see grazing at all around here. This isn't cattle or sheep country. I said <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR> Good to here,.... <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> as a compliment to IThACA's accomplishments. I see them more as a BOON then a BOOM, but never the less their population sure has BOOMED.
In regard to pheassnts, chuckar, and california quail. We have few (not FEW) pheasants, and they are seen locally around the agricultural areas, and as a replacement of the forest grouse that were probably displaced by agriculture. Quail are another story, they seem to sell alot of chicks each year at the feed store.... Chuckar aren't around here at all. Turkeys on the other hand are everywhere. I find their track on the ridge tops in the deep snow country during the winter (BTW it's when I'm snowmobiling or ATV riding). <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR> you are one sour, bitter SOB .... whiner <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> BUZZ, grow up.
ITHACA, for your information, the F&G shipped hundreds of birds (some times hundreds a winter) from the north to the Boise area throughout the late 80's & 90's. Where were you when the F&G traded 200 northern birds to California for 50 Rio's for southern Idaho back in 99?
I was one of the guys that stuffed birds into those turkey federation boxes for shipping them south.
<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR> Once again, you have no idea what you're talking about! I really do wish you had some credibility. It would make it more interesting to discuss things with you.
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Likewise.
<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR> One real big difference is that it's not done by restricting hunting opportunities somewhere else. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
And the panhandle was under an April 15th controlled hunt for turkeys while the rest of the state had different hunts.
How many of the 15,000 turkey hunters are those that get their tag through the sportsmans package like I do, and how many are true turkey hunters?
I will say that I'd bet there would be more turkey hunters if the tag price was lower.
BTW, the turkeys sit on the clothes line posts, and break the rose treleses when they try to sit on them. I can tell by your smart@$$ed comment, that you never had to deal with turkeys trying to live in your yard before.
To some of the old (80-90ish) people that I know around Harrison, the turkeys are a bigger problem to them then the idea of wolves are to cow farmers.
<FONT COLOR="#800080" SIZE="1">[ 02-18-2003 10:46: Message edited by: Ten Bears ]</font>
TROY, I have seen white turkeys in the flocks around here, but the local warden says that happens from time to time, and you still have to wait for a season to open and have a tag.
MARS, our quail around here (mostly) are from people buying them at the feed stores in the spring and releasing them around their place. Some have taken off and gone "wild", but a heavy winter will thin them out in short order.
I am more curious as we have had smaller flocks of forest grouse in the past (20+ years). I used to be able to find flock numbering up to 30 birds, but lately find smaller flocks of 2 - 8.
BUZZ, I don't see overgrazing were I'm at. We seldom see grazing at all around here. This isn't cattle or sheep country. I said <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR> Good to here,.... <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> as a compliment to IThACA's accomplishments. I see them more as a BOON then a BOOM, but never the less their population sure has BOOMED.
In regard to pheassnts, chuckar, and california quail. We have few (not FEW) pheasants, and they are seen locally around the agricultural areas, and as a replacement of the forest grouse that were probably displaced by agriculture. Quail are another story, they seem to sell alot of chicks each year at the feed store.... Chuckar aren't around here at all. Turkeys on the other hand are everywhere. I find their track on the ridge tops in the deep snow country during the winter (BTW it's when I'm snowmobiling or ATV riding). <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR> you are one sour, bitter SOB .... whiner <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> BUZZ, grow up.
ITHACA, for your information, the F&G shipped hundreds of birds (some times hundreds a winter) from the north to the Boise area throughout the late 80's & 90's. Where were you when the F&G traded 200 northern birds to California for 50 Rio's for southern Idaho back in 99?
I was one of the guys that stuffed birds into those turkey federation boxes for shipping them south.
<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR> Once again, you have no idea what you're talking about! I really do wish you had some credibility. It would make it more interesting to discuss things with you.
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Likewise.
<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR> One real big difference is that it's not done by restricting hunting opportunities somewhere else. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
And the panhandle was under an April 15th controlled hunt for turkeys while the rest of the state had different hunts.
How many of the 15,000 turkey hunters are those that get their tag through the sportsmans package like I do, and how many are true turkey hunters?
I will say that I'd bet there would be more turkey hunters if the tag price was lower.
BTW, the turkeys sit on the clothes line posts, and break the rose treleses when they try to sit on them. I can tell by your smart@$$ed comment, that you never had to deal with turkeys trying to live in your yard before.
To some of the old (80-90ish) people that I know around Harrison, the turkeys are a bigger problem to them then the idea of wolves are to cow farmers.
<FONT COLOR="#800080" SIZE="1">[ 02-18-2003 10:46: Message edited by: Ten Bears ]</font>
