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It's rather interesting to me. With Modern Manufacturing, bullets, brass and powders of today, shot by shot accuracy/consistency has increased dramatically. In my safe, I have several "common" rifles (Rem 700's) right from the factory that shoot incredibly well. One rifle - the cheapest in the safe, a Rem 700 SPS, has shot 2.5" 600 yard groups. Even that lousy little Ruger American shoots bugholes these days.

Which kind of brings me to the point: why spend $12k on a rifle for hunting out to 500 yards when similar results can be had for under $1k?

I'm not knocking the guys who do...but let's face it: one doesn't need a $12k rifle to go shoot epic critters.
 
It's rather interesting to me. With Modern Manufacturing, bullets, brass and powders of today, shot by shot accuracy/consistency has increased dramatically. In my safe, I have several "common" rifles (Rem 700's) right from the factory that shoot incredibly well. One rifle - the cheapest in the safe, a Rem 700 SPS, has shot 2.5" 600 yard groups. Even that lousy little Ruger American shoots bugholes these days.

Which kind of brings me to the point: why spend $12k on a rifle for hunting out to 500 yards when similar results can be had for under $1k?

I'm not knocking the guys who do...but let's face it: one doesn't need a $12k rifle to go shoot epic critters.
I'd like to say if I had the $ I wouldn't...but then again.
 
It's rather interesting to me. With Modern Manufacturing, bullets, brass and powders of today, shot by shot accuracy/consistency has increased dramatically. In my safe, I have several "common" rifles (Rem 700's) right from the factory that shoot incredibly well. One rifle - the cheapest in the safe, a Rem 700 SPS, has shot 2.5" 600 yard groups. Even that lousy little Ruger American shoots bugholes these days.

Which kind of brings me to the point: why spend $12k on a rifle for hunting out to 500 yards when similar results can be had for under $1k?

I'm not knocking the guys who do...but let's face it: one doesn't need a $12k rifle to go shoot epic critters.
Totally agree. One of my buddies drives a $100k new truck and another drives a 23 year old Ford. Both get to deer camp every year just fine. Different priorities and different incomes.
 
If I wanted some super long range gun, I'd just have Kirby Allen build me one; he also does the load development with whatever bullet you choose. For a fraction of the price. Heck, the 6.5 he built for my granddaughter shoots 1/2 MOA at 600 yards with 125 gr Hammer HHTs. Less than 2 grand.

As per the above, could I have gotten her a Tikka or something, which likely would have been fine? Sure, but Kirby is a good guy, keep some money in Montana.
 
I always appreciate guys driving around with beater trucks and boats worth 3x as much.
I worked at a bait shop in college, always amazed me. We had a guy one night with a new bass cat that had to have a tow truck called because the trans went out and he couldn’t get it back up the ramp.
 
If I wanted some super long range gun, I'd just have Kirby Allen build me one; he also does the load development with whatever bullet you choose. For a fraction of the price. Heck, the 6.5 he built for my granddaughter shoots 1/2 MOA at 600 yards with 125 gr Hammer HHTs. Less than 2 grand.

As per the above, could I have gotten her a Tikka or something, which likely would have been fine? Sure, but Kirby is a good guy, keep some money in Montana.
Shooting the .375 Allen Magnum is something I won't forget. 350 grain bullet at around 3200 fps. mtmuley
 
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