What bothers me is the shot's close up with the bears. I
After watching that and thinking about it I don't think anyone would have to tell me he was ill, for me, his actions pretty much spoke for themselves. The bear that killed them could have been the first he'd fooled with. Would appear different then? I'd hate to think someone else would try to pick up where he left off. I don't get the point of what he was doing either, to protect bears in wild country like that? Got to be kidding me. The guy did something incredibly stupid and paid the price. He accomplished nothing other than dying! And the woman with him? She was also either crazy or very ill informed. The bears where they were were very wild animals. They will kill and eat other animals. Wonder what they think a human is? I'd guess to them a meal!
OH, did I miss the part about Herzog's involvement before Treadwell's death? I always thought he just did the post-mortem filming. Did he enable Treadwell too?
Oh, I agree; I like bear spray. I just don't like the way that bear spray is marketed as a panacea for all of your ursine woes. It routinely fails to drive off bears. If it came with such a disclaimer, I'd have no problem with it. Sadly, I suspect some of the people pushing it are perfectly willing to risk human lives in order to protect bear lives.
Pretty sure not, believe he just made the documentary. Gotta take Ontario's posts with a bag of salt.
That was my impression too.
I don't know a thing about bear spray but think I'd prefer a rifle with heavy bullet's. Problem being with bear spray you simply probably need to be to close and if it does fail,,,your to close!
That right there.. ironclad summary of the entire debate. Spray vs. pistol debate is on other threads.
Pretty racist undertones @OntarioHunter Not cool
Sounds like I missed something here.Pretty racist undertones @OntarioHunter Not cool
Worth considering an apology to @Panda Bear
Fellow FN
What animals are pets and which are food is a cultural choice. I love dogs and place them pretty close to humans in my "what I care about" list, so I can't imagine using a dog as bait. At the same time, I eat cows - something not ok in much of India. Location and culture have a lot to do with evaluating choices, lest we assume the mantle of the solitary keeper of the "truth".
Very common in several Asia and Africa countries. ( Dogs AND cats ). Dog meat is part of the Christmas celebration in Switzerland. Other countries as well.
And not the first time. The post you refer to is not even the most egregious. AND, it should be noted that Panda Bear DID NOT approve of the dogs being used to attract bears AND the fellow who did so was prosecuted.Pretty racist undertones @OntarioHunter Not cool
Worth considering an apology to @Panda Bear
Fellow FN
And not just him and her. It amazes many members here when they see people trying to get closer to a wild animal for a picture. A video was posted a while back showing a lady trying t get closer to ( from memory ) a moose. Bison, Bear, Moose encounters by people assuming they are invincible happens in places like Yellowstone, Alaska, etc
Perhaps this thread will still be active when he returns. He and his lady is wrapping up a very successful Africa Safari. He got several different species. I will let him share it with everyone when he returns to the States------but as mentioned above, he knew met them and as stated, was surprised they made it out on their first three trips.
This lady studies and confronts Black, Brown, White and Grolar bears, in all three "Territories", both in towns, wilderness, and ice. She always has bear spray with her but has said it does not always work. Weather is too cold, wind blowing in the wrong direction, etc--but she always takes it. She can carry ( not everyone in Canada can) but she does have a license to do so, but she does not, as she says a lever action rifle serves her better. Also a shotgun with slugs, cracker, and something else I am forgetting. And flares in the winter. Also cages and then tranquilize and helicopter them back out on the ice. I am sharing this from memory and may not have it all exactly correct.
This is a problem as people that simply don't understand just may try it with a wild bear! I would be willing to bet that neither of these people in the video would attempt this with a wild bear!
Would you rather put your hand in the grizzlies mouth or put the dress on lillygator?
Definitely the gator - that might only mean a trip to the hospital.
