davinski
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I'm not familiar with the three who left to make room for these new folks. The scene wasn't exactly rosy before but I assume it sounds like it will get worse.
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Sometimes the push for inclusivity introduces exclusivity...Very bad news for hunters. I guess the upside is no one will need to worry about point creep and tag quotas when all the animal rights attorneys and activists on the commission ensure the end of routine killing of non-humans (aka hunting). How is Gary Skiba a representative of sportspersons? Am I to assume hunters are part of sportspersons? Did the Governor consult with any hunting organizations for a recommendation? I have hard time believing any of the organizations that represent hunters would recommend Gary Skiba.
I disagree, genuinely. As a purple voter married to a liberal woman, we've discussed this many times. The problem is that the middle group of voters (moderate liberals, moderate republicans, and independent voters) have not been presented with a reasonable Republican candidate for a bit. At this point a centrist Democrat might work as well. The problem is Polis - in some aspects - is a true libertarian and in other aspects he is very much a very liberal democrat. That's why he gets so many votes, the left really loves him and some of the centrists prefer him over an extreme counterpart. Which is why he wins.That ship has long sailed. There will be nothing moderate about the future coming from the Denver-Boulder-FoCo metroplex of shiz. As much as I love the landscape here, I am also strongly considering a move. Sad.
Was having a similar conversation with @Ben Lamb earlier...seems the gulf of difference is the length of the stool we're on opposite ends of.I disagree, genuinely. As a purple voter married to a liberal woman, we've discussed this many times. The problem is that the middle group of voters (moderate liberals, moderate republicans, and independent voters) have not been presented with a reasonable Republican candidate for a bit. At this point a centrist Democrat might work as well. The problem is Polis - in some aspects - is a true libertarian and in other aspects he is very much a very liberal democrat. That's why he gets so many votes, the left really loves him and some of the centrists prefer him over an extreme counterpart. Which is why he wins.
But trust me when I say there are a lot of Democrats that are not stoked about how things are going in Denver and Colorado, in general. But if Republicans comes with a candidate that checks all those boxes I previously listed, they have a shot.
I am disappointed to see these appointments, and I look for any advice to strategically fight these kind of appointments. I've already written the Governor, quoting his own debate speech from the 2022 election in which he said he isn't interested in only listening to one side... but he seems to be abandoning that now.
I agree. I am hopeful a candidate comes along before it’s too late, if it isn’t already. I have also written the Governor and every Senator/Representative on the Natural Resources committees, confirmation vote won’t be for a while. I think the only other recourse is to contact every wildlife conservation/hunting organization and request their leadership speak out and request the Governor reconsider. Contact every hunter you know and make them aware, urge them to do the same. I know it is said here often that there are many Democrat voting hunters and I know that to be true, however, if you voted for Polis as Governor of Colorado you may have contributed to the long, slow demise of hunting in Colorado.I disagree, genuinely. As a purple voter married to a liberal woman, we've discussed this many times. The problem is that the middle group of voters (moderate liberals, moderate republicans, and independent voters) have not been presented with a reasonable Republican candidate for a bit. At this point a centrist Democrat might work as well. The problem is Polis - in some aspects - is a true libertarian and in other aspects he is very much a very liberal democrat. That's why he gets so many votes, the left really loves him and some of the centrists prefer him over an extreme counterpart. Which is why he wins.
But trust me when I say there are a lot of Democrats that are not stoked about how things are going in Denver and Colorado, in general. But if Republicans comes with a candidate that checks all those boxes I previously listed, they have a shot.
I am disappointed to see these appointments, and I look for any advice to strategically fight these kind of appointments. I've already written the Governor, quoting his own debate speech from the 2022 election in which he said he isn't interested in only listening to one side... but he seems to be abandoning that now.
I think this goes for much of the country. I live a stone's throw from Vermont, where despite the public image of ultra-liberal, left wing commies running the show, more often than not, they have a moderate Republican governor with a high favorability rate. Moderates could be running this country if the party bases weren't rigging the game. I hope hunting in Colorado doesn't take too big a hit from this current situation!I disagree, genuinely. As a purple voter married to a liberal woman, we've discussed this many times. The problem is that the middle group of voters (moderate liberals, moderate republicans, and independent voters) have not been presented with a reasonable Republican candidate for a bit. At this point a centrist Democrat might work as well. The problem is Polis - in some aspects - is a true libertarian and in other aspects he is very much a very liberal democrat. That's why he gets so many votes, the left really loves him and some of the centrists prefer him over an extreme counterpart. Which is why he wins.
But trust me when I say there are a lot of Democrats that are not stoked about how things are going in Denver and Colorado, in general. But if Republicans comes with a candidate that checks all those boxes I previously listed, they have a shot.
I am disappointed to see these appointments, and I look for any advice to strategically fight these kind of appointments. I've already written the Governor, quoting his own debate speech from the 2022 election in which he said he isn't interested in only listening to one side... but he seems to be abandoning that now.
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again… I really hope the Republican Party is working on a moderate, non election denier, who is neutral on abortion for CO. If they are truly all three they could win.
If you want an interesting read about how these new people feel about animal rights do little back ground check and you will find that a couple of them are out to destroy veterinary medicine because of cruelty factor. It is just ridiculous ! Colorado has been ruined by the influx of radicals....not going to happen, sadly
I would say that I don't believe the majority of folks who have voted for Polis would EVER under ANY circumstances vote for anyone with a Republican or Independent tag attached to them. Further, I don't believe the power brokers in the state Democratic party want or feel they need to go to a centrist. Without fairly large scale ship jumping, a non Dem candidate has almost zero chance statewide. If you look at the recent gun regs passed (especially the revocation of non liability to gun manufacturers, shops, accessory makers and ammo manufacturers for crimes committed with guns which was passed just LAST YEAR) along with the unlimited abortion up to birth law passed in the last election you can see no moderation.I disagree, genuinely. As a purple voter married to a liberal woman, we've discussed this many times. The problem is that the middle group of voters (moderate liberals, moderate republicans, and independent voters) have not been presented with a reasonable Republican candidate for a bit. At this point a centrist Democrat might work as well. The problem is Polis - in some aspects - is a true libertarian and in other aspects he is very much a very liberal democrat. That's why he gets so many votes, the left really loves him and some of the centrists prefer him over an extreme counterpart. Which is why he wins.
But trust me when I say there are a lot of Democrats that are not stoked about how things are going in Denver and Colorado, in general. But if Republicans comes with a candidate that checks all those boxes I previously listed, they have a shot.
I am disappointed to see these appointments, and I look for any advice to strategically fight these kind of appointments. I've already written the Governor, quoting his own debate speech from the 2022 election in which he said he isn't interested in only listening to one side... but he seems to be abandoning that now.
Gary Skiba is a noted animal rights activist, and wolf forced intro supporter, who has been actively and openly hostile to hunting. Also in the early 90's, after the game managers, biologists, and the wildlife commission rejected the initiative to ban spring bear hunting, again he was one of the prime supporters to get the spring bear hunting ban on the ballot.The 3 members exiting weren't exactly winners either with their resumes. None of them were exactly contributors to the cause.... Out of the new 3 at least Skiba was a wildlife biologist for CPW... maybe that is a positive. The lawyer (Beaulieu) is probably the most concerning!
Well hell! I guess I was wrong! 3 losers out, 3 losers in!Gary Skiba is a noted animal rights activist, and wolf forced intro supporter, who has been actively and openly hostile to hunting. Also in the early 90's, after the game managers, biologists, and the wildlife commission rejected the initiative to ban spring bear hunting, again he was one of the prime supporters to get the spring bear hunting ban on the ballot.
The problem is Polis - in some aspects - is a true libertarian and in other aspects he is very much a very liberal democrat.
Gary Skiba is a noted animal rights activist, and wolf forced intro supporter, who has been actively and openly hostile to hunting.