Garage rebuild with man room/apartment on second story

[BackofBeyond]

@BigHornRam @Backofbeyond could you take the op design and then make the second floor a loft over the bay that’s the “shop”, the on the truck bay there is no second floor, and then a railing down the middle on floor 2.

Hang your elk heads on the now 16ft+ ceiling above the truck bay?

Not quite what I have in mind but kinda….

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Here’s the rules - we can build anything you want, but we need an engineered drawing first, and you have to be able to pay for it.

Back to the original question… you absolutely could do a loft and 16’ walls, but not for the same price as the original design.

 

[BigHornRam]

If you are looking for some exceptional design ideas @wllm , check out this bitterroot special on my morning dog walk loop. It's been evolving for about a year and a half. Pretty sure the guy moved here from north Idaho.

 

[Deleted member 28227]

If you are looking for some exceptional design ideas @wllm , check out this bitterroot special on my morning dog walk loop. It's been evolving for about a year and a half. Pretty sure the guy moved here from north Idaho.

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Oh man that is exquisite lol

 

[TheJason]

If you are looking for some exceptional design ideas @wllm , check out this bitterroot special on my morning dog walk loop. It's been evolving for about a year and a half. Pretty sure the guy moved here from north Idaho.

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Or Three Forks.

 

[BackofBeyond]

If you are looking for some exceptional design ideas @wllm , check out this bitterroot special on my morning dog walk loop. It's been evolving for about a year and a half. Pretty sure the guy moved here from north Idaho.

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Oh no my friend, that’s a Montucky original. My people don’t do flatbeds.

 

[Irrelevant]

If you are looking for some exceptional design ideas @wllm , check out this bitterroot special on my morning dog walk loop. It's been evolving for about a year and a half. Pretty sure the guy moved here from north Idaho.

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I fail to see the issue... my house would fit in the garage section alone.

 

[TheJason]

Thoughtful design can absolutely be affordable.

Something I’ve wrestled with about the barndo concept.

 

[Hem]

I can see doing a barndo if it’s a “we’ll live in the shop while we build the house” kind of thing, but there’s lots to be said about thoughtful design - as in I wish it happened more, specifically in the commercial side.

Thats why our subdivision has clamped down on shop before house. House never gets built. Most people underestimate the true cost of building.

 

[Irrelevant]

Thats why our subdivision has clamped down on shop before house. House never gets built. Most people underestimate the true cost of building.

uh uh, pick me! pick me!

I've been looking at building a larger shop/apartment above to short-term rent and I just can't friggin' afford it. I swear a white collar job is worthless these days, just another one of @wllm's poors...

 

[TheJason]

just another one of @wllm's poors...

Sign me up.

 

[westbranch]

Bitterrooters can't hold a candle to the cobbled up craftmanship of North Idahoians.

Hey, some of those shacks were selling for $700k last year.

 

[noharleyyet]

If you are looking for some exceptional design ideas @wllm , check out this bitterroot special on my morning dog walk loop. It's been evolving for about a year and a half. Pretty sure the guy moved here from north Idaho.

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Cover that entire thing with stucco and, voila, New Mexico...no control joints allowed.

 

[Deleted member 28227]

Funny how “no trespassing”, private property rights folks enjoy making rules about what other folks can build on their property.

 

[Hem]

uh uh, pick me! pick me!

I've been looking at building a larger shop/apartment above to short-term rent and I just can't figgin' afford it. I swear a white collar job is worthless these days, just another one of @wllm's poors...

Funny stuff. Like I am an elitist because it took me a year to physically build my own house and keep my construction business going....with 10 actual days off out of 365.
Sometimes there are sacrifices to be made....such as traveling around the country hunting multiple states every year.

 

[Irrelevant]

Funny stuff. Like I am an elitist because it took me a year to physically build my own house and keep my construction business going....with 10 actual days off out of 365.
Sometimes there are sacrifices to be made....such as traveling around the country hunting multiple states every year.

I spent $2,750 on hunting expenditures this year to date. That would be a single month payment on a loan for what I'm looking at.

We aren't all handy with hammer and nail and shit. I've built two shed and a wood shed. First shed was a parallelagram, didn't know you had to measure x-corners, also the crip wall on the tall side (single pitch) isn't plumb, because how the f' do you hold it in place, and secure it at the same time? I fell off the ladder twice. Shed two (wellhouse) looked great until I started the rafters, the top was another parallelagram, no idea how it spiraled on the way up because the f'n footings were square! Third wood shed, simple structure, built on the little trapizoid concrete blocks, day 3 the wind picked it up and blew it across the property into the creek...

I'm done "building" anything beyond a dog house.

 

[BigHornRam]

Hey, some of those shacks were selling for $700k last year.

God bless our California friends. One brutal winter like what is being predicted this year and all those shacks will be back on the market in spring, for $205,000.

 

[Hem]

I spent $2,750 on hunting expenditures this year to date. That would be a single month payment on a loan for what I'm looking at.

We aren't all handy with hammer and nail and shit. I've built two shed and a wood shed. First shed was a parallelagram, didn't know you had to measure x-corners, also the crip wall on the tall side (single pitch) isn't plumb, because how the f' do you hold it in place, and secure it at the same time? I fell off the ladder twice. Shed two (wellhouse) looked great until I started the rafters, the top was another parallelagram, no idea how it spiraled on the way up because the f'n footings were square! Third wood shed, simple structure, built on the little trapizoid concrete blocks, day 3 the wind picked it up and blew it across the property into the creek...

I'm done "building" anything beyond a dog house.

We all have our strengths and weaknesses. I have a house and shop but probably never afford to retire. Does that make me one of the"poors:?

 

[BackofBeyond]

How did we go from a 2.5 year old garage question to the verge of a white collar vs blue collar HT slugfest?

 

[BigHornRam]

Funny how “no trespassing”, private property rights folks enjoy making rules about what other folks can build on their property.

Come to the Bitterroot wllm. No rules here. You can build the ugliest house imaginable, right next to some stuffed shirt boomers McMansion. It's great!

 

[BigHornRam]

I spent $2,750 on hunting expenditures this year to date. That would be a single month payment on a loan for what I'm looking at.

We aren't all handy with hammer and nail and shit. I've built two shed and a wood shed. First shed was a parallelagram, didn't know you had to measure x-corners, also the crip wall on the tall side (single pitch) isn't plumb, because how the f' do you hold it in place, and secure it at the same time? I fell off the ladder twice. Shed two (wellhouse) looked great until I started the rafters, the top was another parallelagram, no idea how it spiraled on the way up because the f'n footings were square! Third wood shed, simple structure, built on the little trapizoid concrete blocks, day 3 the wind picked it up and blew it across the property into the creek...


I'm done "building" anything beyond a dog house.

You sound over qualified to be north Idaho builder, @neffa3 .