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[DFS]

This is just archery think about the effects of long range rifles.

 

[cgasner1]

I think the ability to lock the draw is more important, not the horizontal v. vertical axis. Add to that the ability to crank to a higher draw weight resulting in increasing speed, flattening trajectory and giving higher accuracy across distances. Just more efficient.

You don’t have to practice with a cross bow just sight it in.

 

[mtmuley]

I think the ability to lock the draw is more important, not the horizontal v. vertical axis. Add to that the ability to crank to a higher draw weight resulting in increasing speed, flattening trajectory and giving higher accuracy across distances. Just more efficient.

So archery equipment is going the same way as the LR rifle hunting craze. mtmuley

 

[Nick87]

This is just archery think about the effects of long range rifles.

I know where your going with that and F&$k the resource!! I want to fill a tag.

 

[Rie Bread]

So archery equipment is going the same way as the LR rifle hunting craze. mtmuley

Wack’m and stack’’em

 

[cgasner1]

Compound bows are an axis away from being a crossbow.

It ShOtS a ArRoW!

 

[mtmuley]

It ShOtS a ArRoW!

That sucks. mtmuley

 

[Nick87]

That sucks. mtmuley

You can squat to piss and shoot it at the same time.

 

[Straight Arrow]

Can those disabled hunters use a crossbow during firearm season ?

In Montana any hunter may use a crossbow during rifle season. Also the crossbow may be used even during the archery only season, but only in Weapons Restriction Areas.

 

[mtmuley]

You can squat to piss and shoot it at the same time.

And I thought my Mystery Ranch pack and AGC bino harness gave me a leg up. mtmuley

 

[Nick87]

In Montana any hunter may use a crossbow during rifle season. Also the crossbow may be used even during the archery only season, but only in Weapons Restriction Areas.

I was referring to Arizona.

 

[SAJ-99]

I try to thing of another activity that could be used as a comparison. The best I can come up with is people now have to apply for a permit to hike up to Half Dome, and the NPS says it is ok for those with a doctor's note to ride an e-bike up the trail. Pretty soon, everyone with a hangnail is using an e-bike. Not a great comparison, but my point being, that would never happen. Yet in hunting, anything that increases opportunity for someone seems to move forward with ease.

 

[Nick87]

I try to thing of another activity that could be used as a comparison. The best I can come up with is people now have to apply for a permit to hike up to Half Dome, and the NPS says it is ok for those with a doctor's note to ride an e-bike up the trail. Pretty soon, everyone with a hangnail is using an e-bike. Not a great comparison, but my point being, that would never happen. Yet in hunting, anything that increases opportunity for someone seems to move forward with ease.

Buzz made a few pretty good comparisons a couple pages back.

 

[Straight Arrow]

I was referring to Arizona.

Understand. 'Just trying to emphasize the extensive crossbow hunting opportunities through example in Montana. Year after year, legislative session after legislative session the contentious proposals for crossbow hunting during archery in Montana bubble up to the surface of ugly debate.

 

[Nick87]

Understand. 'Just trying to emphasize the extensive crossbow hunting opportunities through example in Montana. Year after year, legislative session after legislative session the contentious proposals for crossbow hunting during archery in Montana bubble up to the surface of ugly debate.

I wouldn't expect it to go away anytime soon.

 

[NEWHunter]

Buzz made a few pretty good comparisons a couple pages back.

Did he really though? Most don’t need a permit/license to play basketball or baseball. But some do use wheelchairs to play basketball. Wheelchairs as a tool that allow them to play basketball, just like crossbows allow disabled people to archery hunt. They also build adaptive fields that allow disabled folks to play baseball, kinda like crossbows allow disabled folks to archery hunt. It doesn’t quite look the same, but with some reasonable accommodations the baseball players, basketball players, and archers are still out there doing it - unless you’re in AZ and they take that opportunity away from you.

 

[Nick87]

Did he really though? Most don’t need a permit/license to play basketball or baseball. But some do use wheelchairs to play basketball. Wheelchairs as a tool that allow them to play basketball, just like crossbows allow disabled people to archery hunt. They also build adaptive fields that allow disabled folks to play baseball, kinda like crossbows allow disabled folks to archery hunt. It doesn’t quite look the same, but with some reasonable accommodations the baseball players, basketball players, and archers are still out there doing it - unless you’re in AZ and they take that opportunity away from you.

Remember hunter safety class...it's been a while. "Hunting is a privilege, not a right".

 

[cgasner1]

Did he really though? Most don’t need a permit/license to play basketball or baseball. But some do use wheelchairs to play basketball. Wheelchairs as a tool that allow them to play basketball, just like crossbows allow disabled people to archery hunt. They also build adaptive fields that allow disabled folks to play baseball, kinda like crossbows allow disabled folks to archery hunt. It doesn’t quite look the same, but with some reasonable accommodations the baseball players, basketball players, and archers are still out there doing it - unless you’re in AZ and they take that opportunity away from you.

So should people that use regular bows be allowed to use scopes? The argument doesn’t hold water when the weapons are no where near the same

 

[NEWHunter]

Remember hunter safety class...it's been a while. "Hunting is a privilege, not a right".

Sure, and you’re good with disabled hunters losing that privilege and I’m not.

 

[NEWHunter]

So should people that use regular bows be allowed to use scopes? The argument doesn’t hold water when the weapons are no where near the same

WTF . . . seriously? What about the abilities or disabilities of the person using the weapon? The argument holds a hell of a lot of water when you consider what an able bodied person can do with a compound versus what a paraplegic could do with a crossbow.

Disabled people using crossbows in archery season isn’t a problem. Enforcement of the laws on the books in AZ apparently is. And disabled hunters losing opportunities to get out and hunt is definitely a problem.