Finally some good news

[Nick87]

Still have a numbers problem. But I don't disagree.

You'd see a lot of numbers drop off imo.

 

[44hunter45]

AZ was issuing the 'illegal' disability permits. AZ could easily fix that and still allow hunters who cannot physically shoot a bow to use x bow without magnifying optics, to hunt during archery. It was not easy to get my disability x bow authorization here in CO, I needed a signed form from my Dr. He consulted the regs before signing my permit. If AZ doesn't trust Drs to be honest they should firm up the regs on what specifically constitutes x bow eligibility, then designate specific Drs with training on the topic and make permit seekers go through only those Drs. There is a flavor of kneejerk reaction against genuinely handicapped archers in this, just because the state didn't do it's due diligence in their handicap permitting process.

Agree, but not 100%. People use scam doctors to get drugs, too.

 

[Flynarrow]

Agree, but not 100%. People use scam doctors to get drugs, too.

Too many doctors would sign anything without recognizing the consequences. And too many hunters would use anything to make it easier. They probably have handicapped parking permits too.

 

[Rie Bread]

Based on the condition of the mule deer herd it’s in our best interest to promote a more fair means way of pursing mule deer. Logically a trad now only for mule deer hunting is one way as sportsmen/women that we can bring about change, like getting mule deer hunting out of the rut.

 

[Straight Arrow]

like getting mule deer hunting in the rut.

I say let's quit mule deer hunting in the rut.

 

[mtmuley]

Can you imagine the game numbers/and trophy quality if rifle season was open sights, muzzleloader was sidelock, and archery was stick and string. Not to mention the oppurtunity it would provide for all of us in the number of tags that would be available. People don't want oppurtunity though they want to fill a tag as easily as possible. I say this as a guy who shoots a 15x scope, an in line muzzleloader and a compound bow. I would be in overwhelming favor of it though if we could pull that off.

Nobody on Rokslide would kill anything. mtmuley

 

[Rie Bread]

I say let's quit mule deer hunting in the rut.

Typo

 

[grizzly63]

AZ was issuing the 'illegal' disability permits. AZ could easily fix that and still allow hunters who cannot physically shoot a bow to use x bow without magnifying optics, to hunt during archery. It was not easy to get my disability x bow authorization here in CO, I needed a signed form from my Dr. He consulted the regs before signing my permit. If AZ doesn't trust Drs to be honest they should firm up the regs on what specifically constitutes x bow eligibility, then designate specific Drs with training on the topic and make permit seekers go through only those Drs. There is a flavor of kneejerk reaction against genuinely handicapped archers in this, just because the state didn't do it's due diligence in their handicap permitting process.

See, you're not looking at it right. Why is all the emphasis on the state controlling it? The people had a chance to do the right thing and not game the system and they failed. No one wants bigger government so the next best step is to not allow the gaming of the system. You're like everyone else and looking out for yourself which is normal and to be expected.

 

[Keep'er Movin]

Durkin: Crossbow’s impact on Wisconsin bowhunting loses steam

The 89,480 deer that arrow-slingers registered during Wisconsin’s 2023 archery and crossbow seasons marked the third straight year of decline after the kill hit 111,628 in 2020.

www.antigojournal.com

Basically what the article says is crossbows have had little impact on the deer herd in Wisconsin. I've had 3 knee surgeries on my left knee. I'm not disabled by any means but it sure hurts like a SOB when I use sticks and my saddle or hang on. I have two very nice Hoyts that I enjoy shooting but I'll admit, I just got a tenpoint in the mail on Friday to use on the ground and I'm excited to try something new. I hunt public land, have never used a trail camera in my life, and I'm going to enjoy my opportunity while it still presents itself and I'm able to whether it's with a compound or a crossbow. I only take what I need in terms of deer and that is usually 1 per season. I'm not sure why crossbows are so polarizing, but OnX, cell cams, TSS shot shells, forward facing sonar, range finding anything, E-bikes, 200+ hp motors, lightweight synthetic clothing, semi-auto anything, high powered optics, ATVs, UTVs, etc do not seem to garnish the same amount of criticism. I also wonder how many hunters would complain if a youth hunter who has never been exposed to the outdoors finds success with a crossbow? Would that youths experience in the outdoors be any less meaningful or memorable because of the choice of weapon?

 

[Nick87]

also wonder how many hunters would complain if a youth hunter who has never been exposed to the outdoors finds success with a crossbow?

I would, especially if they could've waited a year or two or whatever to hunt archery season with a bow. Little discipline never hurt anyone. Instant gratification isn't what I'm looking for with my kids and hunting. Also what does knee surgeries have to do with switching to a crossbow?