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Roger that!Skip the bore butter!!!
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Roger that!Skip the bore butter!!!
I picked up some 777 30 grain pellets when I was out later today. Of all places, the pawn shot had them. So, I can run different increment loads. I will start at 80 and see how that does.This is where I'm at. I have half a jug from when it was still 10oz and 777 is my replacement.
EDIT: I see you ordered some bore drivers. 100 grains seems to be where a lot of people end up but if you have time to invest in load testing maybe starting down around 85 would be beneficial. There could be sweet spot in there.
IIRC, that's a 209 primed rifle so do yourself a favor and use Federal209A or CCI Mag primers and skip over those that are labeled "muzzleloader" they are anemic compared to others. Those hotter primers will help with the heavier powder charges but the world will not end if you can't find some. Cheddite primers seem to be readily available and are similar to Winchester 209s in "power" and will do the job.
You'll find that Power Belts are made with soft lead to obturate to the rifling. This can make them splat when they hit animals...good or bad depending on your train of thought. The will knock down a deer but as others said there are plenty of bullets to try but since you're on a short timetable I'd probably stick to what you can grab locally and having a Mil Discount from BPI makes power belts an economical option.
I'm sitting on several bottles of it if you ever need a resupply and make it down this way.But, at least where I’m at, BH209 is getting scarce again…
This will be my starting point.Hornady bore drivers on 80g of Blackhorn shoots sub MOA at 100 yards on my CVA Optima. But, at least where I’m at, BH209 is getting scarce again…
You'll be happy with the HornadysWell, what the heck. I bought a pound of Blackhorn 209 today. I have the new breech plug on the way. Dang near bought the Barnes bullets they had, but I am sticking with the Hornady.
Do not tempt thee with another purchase, my brother. Thoust have already stretched thin thy bank account.I beseech you my brother, rebuke the ways of the powerbelt and stray not from the path of the barnes
Which Barnes are you using? I am looking at the .451 diameter 250 grain TEZ.I beseech you my brother, rebuke the ways of the powerbelt and stray not from the path of the barnes
I use the 300 grain expander mz. Cva barrels tend to run a tad bigger, and I think the expanders are on the larger end of the spectrum.Which Barnes are you using? I am looking at the .451 diameter 250 grain TEZ.
The gun store has the 270 ELRs in stock. Thoughts on those?I use the 300 grain expander mz. Cva barrels tend to run a tad bigger, and I think the expanders are on the larger end of the spectrum.
After doing some reading I ordered some 250 grain Barnes Spit-Fire T-EZ bullets. All I hear is super accurate.
Thanks. I got the BH209 breech plug for the powder. I just picked up some 250 and 290 grains at the shop. I want to test groups with both the BH209 and the T7. Only 15 in the box, so I need to save at least 5 for hunting season or until I can get more if I get good groups.You hear correctly. T-EZs are the easy button for muzzleloader hunting whitetail. Put them over anywhere from 80 to 100 grains by volume of BH 209, and you'll almost certainly be much more accurate than you'll ever need to be.
Another note that has been touched on, but could perhaps use clarification. BH209 requires both full strength 209 primers and the Blackhorn-specific breech plug. If either "muzzleloader 209 primers" or the stock breech plug is used, you may or may not experience malfunctions periodically... BH209's ignition temp is about 150 degrees hotter than most blackpowder subs on the market and it can be finicky, depending on the rifle. I use 777 in my Optima.
Thanks. I got the BH209 breech plug for the powder. I just picked up some 250 and 290 grains at the shop. I want to test groups with both the BH209 and the T7. Only 15 in the box, so I need to save at least 5 for hunting season or until I can get more if I get good groups.