Craps - My addiction - Anyone else?

[brymoore]

Live poker is its own creature. The players are playing each other with the casino taking rake of each pot. Skill in poker is much more valuable than the other poker games.

Blackjack has good odds, especially if you can count cards. It’s hard to find single or double deck games. The power of counting cards is diminished with 6 and 8 deck games. I always find it hard to make any big money in blackjack unless you’re playing a high dollar table.

Craps is craps. It’ll bankrupt you in minutes or buy you a car in a few lucky hours. I play conservatively, if that’s possible, and only play the Line and Come bets with max odds unless odds bets are unlimited. Crap odd bets are paid at true odds. It’s where I made most of my money. I don’t place my money anywhere else on the board. Craps is absolutely my favorite casino game. I realize I’m dancing with a drunken whore when I play. Sailor beware.

 

[seeth07]

Live poker is its own creature. The players are playing each other with the casino taking rake of each pot. Skill in poker is much more valuable than the other poker games.

Blackjack has good odds, especially if you can count cards. It’s hard to find single or double deck games. The power of counting cards is diminished with 6 and 8 deck games. I always find it hard to make any big money in blackjack unless you’re playing a high dollar table.

Craps is craps. It’ll bankrupt you in minutes or buy you a car in a few lucky hours. I play conservatively, if that’s possible, and only play the Line and Come bets with max odds unless odds bets are unlimited. Crap odd bets are paid at true odds. It’s where I made most of my money. I don’t place my money anywhere else on the board. Craps is absolutely my favorite casino game. I realize I’m dancing with a drunken whore when I play. Sailor beware.

Best way mathematically to play and have the smallest EV loss playing.

 

[Deleted member 53219]

Not much of a gambler myself but when I’m somewhere like Deadwood or Vegas, Craps is by far my favorite live game. Once had a buddy with a hot hand roll a guy $3000 in profit, the bouncers came and checked his ID and his dice multiple times and he just kept rolling hot, it was fun to watch!

 

[Wild Bill]

Not much of a gambler myself but when I’m somewhere like Deadwood or Vegas, Craps is by far my favorite live game. Once had a buddy with a hot hand roll a guy $3000 in profit, the bouncers came and checked his ID and his dice multiple times and he just kept rolling hot, it was fun to watch!

This. Not much of a gambler myself, but a good craps table with some characters, and someone on a heater can be a really fun time.
My wife prefers to play Roulette. She's pretty low risk. It's still fun and she usually manages to win enough to cover the seafood buffet.

 

[Oras]

I’ve dabbled in craps a bit, and it’s one of the most exciting games when the table is hot. There’s nothing quite like being part of a winning streak with a crowd cheering around you. That said, I’ve also had nights where my bankroll disappeared way too fast. Nowadays, I mostly stick to online casinos since they offer better bonuses and let me play on my own time.

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[LuketheDog]

I'm not much of a gambler, but I think the only time I ever actually came out ahead was playing war at the Hard Rock while my buddies were losing at craps and blackjack, I bought dinner for the group that night

 

[LopeHunter]

I enjoy these interpretations of “math” and “statistics” but I don’t think these terms mean what some of you think. Poker games where play each other around a table allow the wolves to fleece the sheep.

Everyone at all other casino games are sheep. Counting cards at blackjack is just not a thing with multi-decks and frequent dealing. Jerking your bets up and down will result in more frequent dealing.

The average gambler feels they are luckier than the average gambler. This is shown in studies. Thus, the odds are distorted in most gambler’s heads as they “know” the game they play has losing odds for gamblers but since they are lucky and have a “system” in place to push their odds into “usually” win then get then get the wheelbarrow ready!!

Poker allows 1% of players around the table to make a living separating 99% of players from their money.

There are no professional gamblers making a living anywhere else in the casino. Sure, there are gamblers having an amazing night at the craps table or at blackjack or roulette. They are not repeating that night after night no matter the size of the starting bankroll. Statistics do not care if you bet $1 or $1,000 or vary your bets.

Math wins in the long run. You pay the tax when confuse reality with your confidence in your upcoming luckiness.

Of course, if you discover irregularities in the design of the playing cards or have inside information on deficiencies in the software programming of the gambling machine or sneak in loaded dice then that is not really math that is available to others.

Donate to casinos responsivly.

 

[seeth07]

I enjoy these interpretations of “math” and “statistics” but I don’t think these terms mean what some of you think. Poker games where play each other around a table allow the wolves to fleece the sheep.

Everyone at all other casino games are sheep. Counting cards at blackjack is just not a thing with multi-decks and frequent dealing. Jerking your bets up and down will result in more frequent dealing.

The average gambler feels they are luckier than the average gambler. This is shown in studies. Thus, the odds are distorted in most gambler’s heads as they “know” the game they play has losing odds for gamblers but since they are lucky and have a “system” in place to push their odds into “usually” win then get then get the wheelbarrow ready!!

Poker allows 1% of players around the table to make a living separating 99% of players from their money.

There are no professional gamblers making a living anywhere else in the casino. Sure, there are gamblers having an amazing night at the craps table or at blackjack or roulette. They are not repeating that night after night no matter the size of the starting bankroll. Statistics do not care if you bet $1 or $1,000 or vary your bets.

Math wins in the long run. You pay the tax when confuse reality with your confidence in your upcoming luckiness.

Of course, if you discover irregularities in the design of the playing cards or have inside information on deficiencies in the software programming of the gambling machine or sneak in loaded dice then that is not really math that is available to others.

Donate to casinos responsivly.

You are pretty much correct that there is no such thing as a professional gambler. There are a few exceptions and a few schemes that do create professional gamblers but there are very few people that can actually do this.

What there can be however though is strategies and schemes that can allow any person to at least break even. This is possible due to casino comp programs.

Take this craps discussion for example. The gold standard 3 point molly strategy provides a casino house edge less than 1%. Your play can be rated and the resulting comps in free bets, drink, food and hotel rooms can pretty easily push you into net profit. Depending on the location and casino will determine how easy that is to do but generally it's not hard to play with a strategic strategy to take advantage of it.

 

[npaden]

My brother is on a counting cards at blackjack deal. He is a pilot and played poker on layovers for years and actually kept a spreadsheet to calculate his hourly earnings at poker. Some ups and downs but it ended up somewhere just under $10 an hour with over a thousand hours played. Not going to pay the bills but better than most other things he could do on layovers that would involve spending money instead of earning it.

So far the blackjack card counting thing hasn't paid off, but it isn't costing him much. He retired last year so it is more of something to do than trying to actually make any money at it.

 

[cookchris]

I am video games guy

 

[2ski]

You craps players, do you shake the dice when you throw them or hold them the same way each time and have a form that you follow? Can you just stand at a craps table and only bet at certain times? Not have money down for every throw?

 

[seeth07]

You craps players, do you shake the dice when you throw them or hold them the same way each time and have a form that you follow? Can you just stand at a craps table and only bet at certain times? Not have money down for every throw?

My wife is a random toss thrower but I have to hold and toss them the same way every time. It makes zero difference, it is impossible to "set the dice" and control the outcome in any way. There are claims and people trying to sell you that you can but it is a myth that has been busted now with super slow mo cameras.

For me it's just mental and feeling that I'm being consistent so my results are consistent. I have a favorite combination that I like to see as well that I like to see as I toss them.

Yes, you can bet whenever you want. The main game and your pass line bet (and if you make a come bet) would be the one exception. These are contract bets and once made, your bet is locked in until it resolves with a point hit or 7 out

 

[2ski]

My wife is a random toss thrower but I have to hold and toss them the same way every time. It makes zero difference, it is impossible to "set the dice" and control the outcome in any way. There are claims and people trying to sell you that you can but it is a myth that has been busted now with super slow mo cameras.

For me it's just mental and feeling that I'm being consistent so my results are consistent. I have a favorite combination that I like to see as well that I like to see as I toss them.

Yes, you can bet whenever you want. The main game and your pass line bet (and if you make a come bet) would be the one exception. These are contract bets and once made, your bet is locked in until it resolves with a point hit or 7 out

Ok so you could stand at the table and watched for 10 minutes and then bet when a new shooter or the 3rd shooter after you stand there gets the dice? And if you wanted to skip betting on a shooter you could do that?

 

[seeth07]

Ok so you could stand at the table and watched for 10 minutes and then bet when a new shooter or the 3rd shooter after you stand there gets the dice? And if you wanted to skip betting on a shooter you could do that?

Yup, you can. I have skipped betting on a shooter before sometimes just out of superstition. My last trip, a guy rolled a 7 out twice in a row right after the point was made so I skipped betting on him and he rolled for like 30 minutes...oops!

 

[2ski]

Yup, you can. I have skipped betting on a shooter before sometimes just out of superstition. My last trip, a guy rolled a 7 out twice in a row right after the point was made so I skipped betting on him and he rolled for like 30 minutes...oops!

I have a buddy that built a table in his basement and has been teaching me here and there. The whole true odds thing and when to bet that is what throws me. Setting the extra chips behind your other chips in order to get true odds.

 

[seeth07]

I have a buddy that built a table in his basement and has been teaching me here and there. The whole true odds thing and when to bet that is what throws me. Setting the extra chips behind your other chips in order to get true odds.

Pass line plus max odds is the best bet in the entire casino. Lowest house edge, under a 1% rake. I.e. for every $100 you bet, you can expect to lose less than $1.

 

[rjthehunter]

I enjoy these interpretations of “math” and “statistics” but I don’t think these terms mean what some of you think. Poker games where play each other around a table allow the wolves to fleece the sheep.

Everyone at all other casino games are sheep. Counting cards at blackjack is just not a thing with multi-decks and frequent dealing. Jerking your bets up and down will result in more frequent dealing.

The average gambler feels they are luckier than the average gambler. This is shown in studies. Thus, the odds are distorted in most gambler’s heads as they “know” the game they play has losing odds for gamblers but since they are lucky and have a “system” in place to push their odds into “usually” win then get then get the wheelbarrow ready!!

Poker allows 1% of players around the table to make a living separating 99% of players from their money.

There are no professional gamblers making a living anywhere else in the casino. Sure, there are gamblers having an amazing night at the craps table or at blackjack or roulette. They are not repeating that night after night no matter the size of the starting bankroll. Statistics do not care if you bet $1 or $1,000 or vary your bets.

Math wins in the long run. You pay the tax when confuse reality with your confidence in your upcoming luckiness.

Of course, if you discover irregularities in the design of the playing cards or have inside information on deficiencies in the software programming of the gambling machine or sneak in loaded dice then that is not really math that is available to others.

Donate to casinos responsivly.

Blackjack is the only game you can actually have an edge over the casino. In order to gain that edge, you need to be able to count cards (not as hard as you think).

Statistics in blackjack make all the difference. Increasing your bet as the True count increases is how you make your money. As the count increases, your edge increases over the casino. Realistically, you can make a lot of money playing blackjack, but you have to travel. Most casinos are pretty quick to kick you out.

Good card counters can make REALLY good money for a few years, by traveling around to different cities & states playing blackjack. It's only a matter of time before they're essentially blacklisted from all the playable games though.

Of the people I know who count cards do it for fun. It's more fun to go to a casino and not lose a bunch of money.