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Depends on how many of them are conceived from drinking Corona!
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Depends on how many of them are conceived from drinking Corona!
Doublecluck
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I didn’t want to be the first accused of the tin foil hat but I’ve been thinking the same. There are 7.53 billion people on earth and it seems a disproportionate amount who have the virus are well known people. It points to one of two possibilities, either this is a global conspiracy for a one world government (that’s a joke sorta) or there are 10,100,1000 times as many cases as we think.
The number of cases is most likely 50-100 times higher than reported, why? Only the severe and paranoid run to the doctor right away. This is a flu strain, which means symptoms will range from drastic to almost not noticeable. Additionally teh "catch it" point to "report it" point is a up to a week as your body tries to fight it off first before getting real symptoms. Many that have it either won't even know they have it, or won't report, but they will run the chance of spreading it.
If every person spreads it to only 1 person, it doubles it.
If every person spreads it to only 1 person, it doubles it.
Lmao, drinking corona?
VikingsGuy
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There are 100,000+ known cases, the experts know with the lag and the logarithmic grow curve that there are 1,000,000 who just haven't became sick enough to be counted, they expect 20-60% of the planet to be exposed in 4 months, 7.5 billion isn't a useful number given the population centers of India, Africa and South America haven't yet been effected meaningfully yet, celebs travel more, are around bigger groups more, shake more hands, are more likely to get quick treatment given money and status, and their names are recognizable. If you want to run the math on how many "famous names" we might recognize, and how many non-famous people live in similar areas and have similar lifestyles and find the number of infections for both populations and then find a mathematical disparity I will apologize, but other wise this is complete and utter hogwash.
VikingsGuy
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The CDC and Mayo answer is you should call your doctor and get their advice for next steps. Even if you have a high fever that won't "break" (101+) and have some difficulty breathing you are still supposed to call first so they can direct you to the right place. Of course if you actually can't breath or have a fever over 103+ someone should call 911.
Nameless Range
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Another and better article referencing that study.
“For this study, researchers used a nebulizer device to put samples of the new virus into the air, imitating what might happen if an infected person coughed or made the virus airborne some other way.
The found that viable virus could be detected up to three hours later in the air, up to four hours on copper, up to 24 hours on cardboard and up to two to three days on plastic and stainless steel.”
time.com
I am starting to think the fellow on the Joe Rogan podcast was right when he said it was airborne
“For this study, researchers used a nebulizer device to put samples of the new virus into the air, imitating what might happen if an infected person coughed or made the virus airborne some other way.
The found that viable virus could be detected up to three hours later in the air, up to four hours on copper, up to 24 hours on cardboard and up to two to three days on plastic and stainless steel.”
Novel Coronavirus Can Live on Some Surfaces for Up to 3 Days, New Tests Show
The new coronavirus can also live in the air for several hours, tests by U.S. government and other scientists have found
I am starting to think the fellow on the Joe Rogan podcast was right when he said it was airborne
Doublecluck
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There are over 80,000 people in China infected, to 1 billion people, how many famous people in China were infected? Can you show me a headline? There’s 330 million people in America, and if you follow the news celebs and politicians are being exposed and infected at an alarming rate.
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BigHornRam
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World travel is spreading the virus like wildfire.
www.denverpost.com
Aspen has the most coronavirus cases in Colorado. Here’s what we know.
Nine Australians visiting Aspen have tested positive for the novel coronavirus and are under mandatory isolation orders — and Pitkin County’s top public health official said three more …
www.denverpost.com
VikingsGuy
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All corona and influenza viruses are airborne - the question is how long and under what conditions.Another and better article referencing that study.
“For this study, researchers used a nebulizer device to put samples of the new virus into the air, imitating what might happen if an infected person coughed or made the virus airborne some other way.
The found that viable virus could be detected up to three hours later in the air, up to four hours on copper, up to 24 hours on cardboard and up to two to three days on plastic and stainless steel.”
Novel Coronavirus Can Live on Some Surfaces for Up to 3 Days, New Tests Show
The new coronavirus can also live in the air for several hours, tests by U.S. government and other scientists have found
I am starting to think the fellow on the Joe Rogan podcast was right when he said it was airborne
Hilljackoutlaw
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If there wasnt a test for coronavirus someone would of started a thread titled "dang it's a bad flu season" because that's all this is and it's a relatively wussy flu.
VikingsGuy
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If you give me the list of 80,000 Chinese names infected and a list of the famous Chinese in the relevant region of china I will do the math.
Nameless Range
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The official line early on in the reporting on the coronavirus said that it could not be transmitted via the air. That doesn’t seem to be the case, and That’s why I shared it.
ImBillT
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I agree with everything you’ve said, and 9/319 is definitely a high enough prevalence rate that even a really bad test would be useful. I don’t know any details on the cruise ship, or the athletes that turned up positive. If you test an entire cruise ship or entire sports LEAGUE, with a test that results in .5% false positives and there are 1000 people on the cruise ship, that’s 5 false positives. Same goes for sports leagues, and entire cities. You have to have a higher prevalence rate than the error rate of the test or the test is worthless.
Again, when you test a high risk group, like sick people, and get 9/319, then we know some people have it. When you test a large group of people in whom the prevalence is low, you will probably just get a confusing mess rather than a meaningful result.
Is there a higher rate of error when testing a person has a cold? Aren’t all colds a corona virus? How many positives weren’t COVID-19, but rather just some other corona virus that’s been in humans for many years and isn’t a big deal?
Hilljackoutlaw
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U been watching to much of the view brent?
False Claim About CDC's Global Anti-Pandemic Work - FactCheck.org
As the COVID-19 disease caused by the new coronavirus has spread around the world, a number of politicians, news organizations and public figures have made the false claim that the Trump administration cut the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention's anti-pandemic work in over 40 countries...
www.factcheck.org
VikingsGuy
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I suppose the difference is how folks are referring to "airborne". I have been viewing to include "aerosolized person to person" which I never heard was in question, vs maybe some answering the far scarier question of sustained presence airborne infectiousness. But we will learn more every day, and my guess is the hindsight risk will fall half way between the naysayers and the doomdayers.
Aside from the book insta-fame promotion, airborne transmission is accurate... That's the directive we've received though... to each his her own.
VikingsGuy
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If you want to go down this road at least accurately refer to it has a "flu with attitude" as it kicks the flu's ass headsup.
Southern Elk
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Can someone link that Mayo Clinic q and a again?
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