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What do you think of "Condolizza Rice" for Sec/State, and what do you think of the hatchet job the Democrats and the press are trying to do ?
The few times I've seen her speak (Sunday morning news/talk shows) she seemed very smart, and sharp as a tack. I supect they will do most of their bad mouthing behind her back because face to face, she is more than a match for her detractors.
 
She'll get confirmed, but they will ask her questions about all the lies and "drama" she was presenting the last year. Remember her claim about the next "terror attack being a mushroom cloud" if we didn't go after Saddam? Remember the memos from Richard Clark that she forgot to read???

She is nothing but a lap dog for Dubya, and Dubya has chosen to remove the only honest voice of dissent in his cabinet, Colin Powell. One of the sure signs of losing touch with reality is when somebody will only surround themselves with "yes men".

Here is how it is being viewed in Canada... :mad:

Sun, November 21, 2004

World eschews Rice

By Eric Margolis -- Contributing Foreign Editor


Condoleezza Rice may be the apple of U.S. President George W. Bush's eye, but in Europe her nomination as Secretary of State is being met with disappointment and dismay.

The long-anticipated resignations of the respected state secretary, Colin Powell, and his tough, able deputy, Richard Armitage, leave U.S. foreign policy in the hands of bellicose VP Dick Cheney and his neocon Pentagon allies. The new National Security Adviser, Stephen Hadley, is a bland functionary well known for being under Cheney's thumb.

Powell, an honourable soldier and gentleman, was humiliated, ignored, and cynically used to sell the Iraq war. He made a fool of himself before the world with his UN presentation about Iraq's supposed arsenal of death.

In my view, Rice, an academic Soviet expert, has been the worst national security adviser since the Reagan administration's bumbling William Clark, whose only foreign affairs experience, wags said, came from eating at the International House of Pancakes.

But Rice is totally loyal to Bush, a consummate yes-woman in an administration prizing subservience and the party line. At least she will speak abroad with full presidential authority.

Prior to 9/11, Rice advocated cutting anti-terrorism spending and concentrating on anti-missile defence. She played a key role in misleading Americans into believing Iraq had weapons of mass destruction and Saddam posed a dire threat. She urged Bush to invade Iraq and plunge deeper into Afghanistan. Her ludicrous claims about Iraqi "mushroom clouds" panicked many Americans. For this alone she should have been dismissed.

The most important function of national security adviser -- and I can say this having myself been interviewed at the White House for a position on the National Security Council -- is to co-ordinate all national security policy. But under Rice, defence, state and CIA were at each other's throats. She allowed the president to humiliate himself over Iraq's non-existent weapons, Saddam's uranium and "drones of death."

After the European powers refused to join the trumped-up Iraq war, Rice famously advised Bush to "punish France, ignore Germany, and forgive Russia." Bush followed this amateurish, vindictive misadvice, seriously damaging U.S.-Europe relations and helping advance dictatorship in Russia.

Bush's second-term foreign policy may grow even more aggressive, unilateralist, and driven by right-wing ideology and religious zealotry.

Fortunately, Bush's declared intention to pursue his ideological crusading will be curtailed by the fact that he has run out of more soldiers and money for new military adventures.

Educated Americans must yearn for foreign policy greats George Marshall, Dean Acheson, Paul Nitze, George Kennan, and Zib Brzesinski whose brilliant strategic minds ably guided the U.S. through the Cold War.

Instead, we have Rice, who, whatever she may know about outside world, knows a lot about Bush, with whom she reportedly likes to belt out gospel hymns. And at the Pentagon, that latter-day Robert McNamara, Don Rumsfeld, is stuck in a lost war in Iraq engineered by the neocons.

CIA's new chief, Porter Goss, another Bush yes-man, whose agency is in revolt, just issued a ukase to all CIA officers ordering them to obey Bush's party line or else. Such boot-licking is how the Bush administration got so much wrong about Iraq.

Attorney General John Aschroft blessedly took his leave. But further dashing hopes Bush would soften and upgrade his cabinet, Ashcroft is to be replaced by an unknown lawyer, Alberto Gonzales, whose main claim to fame is authoring a memo to the president saying the "quaint" Geneva Conventions governing treatment and torture of prisoners did not apply to al-Qaida or the war in Afghanistan -- an act that hardly merits elevation to high office.

The image of Condi Rice and George Bush sitting at the White House piano singing Onward Christian Soldiers is unsettling Europe, which thought Bush II might restore America to its traditional multilateral foreign policy. Even Bush's faithful British retainer, Tony Blair, is looking increasingly unhappy.


 
EG , This may save you some time ;
# of people on this site who care what the rest of the world thinks of us : 0
# of people on this site who scroll through your anti-America posts without reading : everyone .

If nobody cares what the bleeding heart anti-Americans in this country think why would they care about the opinions of anti-Americans in other countries ?

This should free-up your time to defend the Humane Society on the anti-bowhunting thread , that will at least be entertaining .
 
Yeah FCB, thanks for the help. I had forgotten how many in-bred rednecks are on this site...... Good to see you are still getting AM radio in Nevada....

Why should any one care what other countries think of the Secretary of State, as what reason would a Secretary of State ever have to deal with other countires???? You aren't very bright, are you??

Say for instance that Condi wants to stop Iran's nuclear aspirations, and she can't get anybody in Europe to help her, and she is aware that the US Military is 100% tied up in the quagmire that is Iraq.... Then what do you think she will do?

It is interesting to note that the original post in this thread was asking for opinions, and you somehow are afraid to hear opinions that are different than your's. I am guessing your education level peaked at an early age???

Here is an old article, from when they were discussing her for NSA. This kind of stuff will come up again, and given the importance of Oil and Dubya's war for the same, these kind of things will play out. :rolleyes:

The White House, already criticized for its connections to Big Oil, now is facing renewed questions over Chevron's decision to name an oil tanker for national security adviser Condoleezza Rice.

The double-hulled giant, Condoleezza Rice, is part of the international tanker fleet of the San Francisco-based multinational oil firm, named several years ago in honor of Rice when she was a Chevron board member and stockholder.

Rice, the former Stanford University provost, served on Chevron's board from 1991 until Jan. 15, when she resigned after President Bush named her to the national security post.

But with California's energy crisis intensifying and human rights groups spotlighting abuses in countries where Chevron does business, critics say the tanker now poses serious diplomatic and ethical issues for Rice and the administration.

Even more sensitive, they say, is the appearance of a far too cozy relationship among multinational energy giants, Bush and his key advisers -- including Vice President Dick Cheney and Rice.

"It does underscore that there's never been an administration in power in this country that has been so close to a single industry -- in this instance, the oil-and-gas industry," said Chuck Lewis, who heads the Washington-based Center for Public Integrity, which first raised the issue of the tanker's moniker last month. "Look at the president and his background, the vice president (who is a former executive at Halliburton), (Commerce Secretary) Don Evans and his oil interests . . . and now this."

Rice is a respected diplomat, but "I don't think anyone recognized the extent of her closeness to a major oil company," Lewis said. "It's not every day that someone has an oil tanker named after her."

At a White House press conference this week, Bush spokesman Scott McClellan was asked if Bush should specifically request the Condoleezza Rice tanker be given a name change -- particularly since Chevron does business on six continents and 25 countries, and has been sued for alleged human rights abuses in Nigeria.

Last year, the Center for Constitutional Rights filed suit in U.S. District Court in San Francisco, charging Chevron aided Nigerian police in attacks on local communities protesting Chevron production activities. A company spokesman yesterday, however, said the incident involved 200 youths armed with machetes, guns and knives who attempted to take over an offshore oil platform, holding workers for ransom and refusing to allow them access to medical treatment.

On Tuesday, the question about the tanker came up at the White House briefing in connection with the incident in Nigeria. McClellan, the administration spokesman, repeatedly said the issue of the tanker had "already been addressed" by Rice, and added, "she will uphold the highest ethical standards in office."

A Chevron spokeswoman said yesterday that the oil giant has no intention of renaming the Condoleezza Rice and noted that board member Carla Hills also had a Chevron tanker named in her honor before she was appointed former President George Bush's trade secretary -- and the vessel has kept the name.

"It's part of a long-standing practice of naming (tankers) after members of the board of directors," a company spokeswoman said, citing other big ships named George Shultz, David Packard and Kenneth T. Derr.

Rice's office did not return repeated phone calls yesterday, but she told Fox TV last year that she has no regrets regarding her Chevron ties.

"I'm very proud of my association with Chevron, and I think we should be very proud of the job American oil companies are doing in exploration abroad, in exploration at home, and in making certain we have a safe energy supply," she said.

Lewis notes that both Rice and the White House have promised that she will recuse herself from any decisions directly involving Chevron.

"The problem is Chevron operates in dozens of countries all over the world, " he said. "She (is) going to be dealing with issues that are enormous interest to Chevron across the globe -- and you can't recuse yourself from everything."

Lewis said that while some have written off the Condoleezza Rice as a small and humorous footnote to the Bush administration, the danger exists that it could turn into more.

"From a public relations standpoint, they're desperately hoping this is one tanker that doesn't run aground," said Lewis. "That could be a problem."
 
EG, If you had had your head somewhere where the sun shined on it, you would have known that the resignation was Gen. Powell's idea. He's tired and wants to rest and spend time with his family. He is considering a run at the Presidency, but not very hard. He's more interested in taking time to be with his wife and kids. Can you blame him? He's been serving this country for over 40 years. Although I regret his reluctance to run for office, I certainly understand it. More power to him...

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Be careful of what you say about your Nevada relatives EG , remember you have to drive your Volvo though here on your way to your next anti-America rally in San Francisco .
 
I haven't ceased being amazed at the arrogance of the liberal folks in this country. Presuming, since Kerry didn't get elected, that "51% of the voters in this country didn't get any education".

What in hell makes them so sure that 51% of the voters in this country just refused to buy into the BS that Kerry was preaching? If you could follow it through all of the changes, that is.

I would say, coming from a political party that has it's largest following in the ghettos and among the gainfully unemployed, welfare recipients, Social Services cases and center city residents, that perhaps it's the uneducated and unwashed that provided most of the support that the liberals did get.

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LMAO,

if we worried about what other countries thought about us we would be eating rice and fish, living on dirt floored thatched roofed house's wearing turbans, and speaking french.
not to mention you wouldnt be hunting, all your money would be distributed evenly to people who didnt have a fair chance in life. you would have all your relitives liveig with you. all the country (that we have left as some of you put it) would be turned into parks and the rest would be housing, cities and industy, your water ways would be polluted so bad that the only thing you would catch would be a fresh turd.


Yeah I really want to know what canada thinks about things.

Delw
 
Del,
You got any clue what the job of the Secretary of State is????

DanR,
Once again you show how out of touch you are. You are still upset about Dewey getting beat by Truman, aren't you???? For what it is worth, during this year's elections, I voted for Republicans for every office but one. Sorry, but I care too much about hunting and fishing to have voted for Dubya.

But are you of the mind that you think having lapdogs makes for better decision making processes? Do you think the quality of Dubya's decisions will be better or worse, due to the absence of somebody as sharp and honest as Powell???
 
All I want to know is where the heck are the hotties when it comes to the political scene. It seems like if they are involved with politics in any way they look like yard gnomes. :eek: Just look at the ones the last ten years. Shalala,Reno,Hillary,Albright,Coulter,Rice,Lewinsky,Trapp,Fienstein,Boxer,etc etc..... We need some that would look like a woman in a bikini at least.
 
Thanks ElkGunner, that’s what I wanted. To hear some dissenting opinions and what the rest of the world thinks. I don’t agree, in fact it just reinforces my belief that most of the rest of the world are a bunch of sniveling panywastes that are so jealous of us that they will criticize anything while they enjoy the security provided by U.S. might and willpower.
 
A-Con,

Here is a domestic commentary on Dubya's new cabinet. As Saddam proved, a Dictatorship with a bunch of Loyalists is an efficient way to run a government. And who said we haven't learned anything from Iraq???? :eek: =W

______________________________________________
WASHINGTON

President Bush appears to have picked his new cabinet with the view that he has plenty of friends and doesn't need to make new ones. Put another way, he is now the re-elected president of the United States and he is free to get rid of the political celebrities and surround himself with the people he wants.

And so he has. As anyone who watched the job-hopping last week in Washington knows, the president promoted not just men and women he knows and likes. He elevated the most loyal of loyalists, staff members he has worked with for decades, most reaching far back to Texas.

So Secretary of State Colin L. Powell, the international star who had deep misgivings about the war in Iraq, is out. Condoleezza Rice, the national security adviser who was Mr. Bush's foreign policy tutor in the 2000 campaign and begins sentences to reporters with "The president firmly believes," is in.

John Ashcroft, the attorney general much favored by conservatives, whom White House officials saw as a grandstander, is out. Replacing him is Alberto R. Gonzales, the sealed-lips White House counsel who was the chief lawyer to Mr. Bush when he was governor of Texas and was appointed by him to the Texas Supreme Court.

Rod Paige, the first African-American secretary of education, who embarrassed the administration when he called the national teachers' union a "terrorist organization," is out. Replacing him is Margaret Spellings, the low-profile White House domestic policy adviser who worked with Mr. Bush on education issues in Texas.

Ms. Spellings goes so far back in the land of Bush that Karl Rove, the president's chief political adviser, noted at the ceremony announcing her nomination that she had "brutally" turned him down for a date in the 1980's.

Not least, Harriet Miers, the little-known White House deputy chief of staff who was Mr. Bush's personal lawyer in Texas, will replace Mr. Gonzales in the White House counsel's office, a critical incubator of national security and military law since Sept. 11, 2001. Mr. Bush once approvingly described Ms. Miers, whom he appointed chairwoman of the Texas Lottery Commission, as "a pit bull in size 6 shoes."

The changes are a revealing look into the mind and management style of Mr. Bush, for better or worse.

In the view of the president's supporters, the changes show a chief executive in a hurry, with only two years to push through ambitious government programs before he becomes a lame duck. In this view, Mr. Bush has no time to break in unknown cabinet members, and needs people he can talk to in shorthand.

"The fact that he knows them and trusts them tells me he knows there's a limited amount of time to get things done and he knows they're the best people to help him do that," said Nicholas E. Calio, who was Mr. Bush's first White House liaison to Congress.

Or as Newt Gingrich, the former speaker of the House, put it: "There's this desire by the establishment to have Mr. Bush 'mature' by adopting policies and personalities who do not reflect the person who won. This is not a collective leadership; this is the presidency of the United States."

To Mr. Bush's critics, he is rewarding secrecy, consolidating power and stifling dissent. "The good news is that these appointments don't represent the kind of ideological red flags that obviously could upset a lot of people," said Leon E. Panetta, a former chief of staff to President Bill Clinton.

"The bad news is you're not going to make waves. You're not going to have people who are willing to challenge past policies. Generally, in the second term you're a little stagnant to begin with. There is a price to be paid for total loyalty."
 
Nut said:
All I want to know is where the heck are the hotties when it comes to the political scene. It seems like if they are involved with politics in any way they look like yard gnomes. :eek: Just look at the ones the last ten years. Shalala,Reno,Hillary,Albright,Coulter,Rice,Lewinsky,Trapp,Fienstein,Boxer,etc etc..... We need some that would look like a woman in a bikini at least.
Damn NUT haven`t you seen our AZ governor in a G-string...words cannot describe her...[Janet Napolatano cover girl] check her out.
 
Hmmm - one article from one newspaper means an entire country feels the same way as the author of that article. :rolleyes:

I think there are some in-bred pseudo intellectuals on here, as well. ;)
 
C'mon Cali , thats not fair , he's actually been known to cut and paste several articles from the comi handbook in a single evening .
 

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