SAJ-99
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One could argue that some of those listed reduce the wounding rate. The comparison to ebikes, or crossbows isn’t exactly the same.Take your scope of your rifle,leave your range finder at home,don't use Onx maps
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One could argue that some of those listed reduce the wounding rate. The comparison to ebikes, or crossbows isn’t exactly the same.Take your scope of your rifle,leave your range finder at home,don't use Onx maps
Red Herring alert.Take your scope of your rifle,leave your range finder at home,don't use Onx maps
Take your scope of your rifle,leave your range finder at home,don't use Onx maps
It would be dope if there were no optics/electronics areas like there are non-motorized areas.
In UT, they have special season for muzzleloader, but not crossbows. I’d say a muzzleloader has a slight advantage over a crossbow in distance and lethality. So why have special season for one and not their other? I’m not advocating for or against either one. Just that they should probably be treated the same. Both have benefited in substantial technological advancements in recent years that make them far better than their “primitive” roots, which is why we should be open to reevaluating rules as technology changes.As for the comments on cross-bows that someone threw in, cross-bows are NOT anything close to a rifle or firearm. They have similar range with some just higher range as compared to compound bows depending on how you have it set. I would not take a shot with a cross-bow exceeding 150-200 yards period and prefer 100. I have had multiple shoulder surgeries that sometimes make it painful to pull a compound bow to full draw. People that criticize cross-bows are typically people who have never shot one or hunted with it before.
Vehicles, not weapons. No, E-Bikes need to be classified as a motorized vehicle. Period. I've seen them in action. In violation actually here in Montana. They are basically a motorcycle. The regulations banning them on non motorized vehicle trails and roads are "appropriate" and should forever remain that way. Polarizing rhetoric I guess. mtmuleyAs to the original topic of e-bikes, those didn't exist wh e those “no motorized vehicles” rules were conceived. So it’s at least worthy of an open debate since things have changed. Simply saying “non motorized means non motorized” doesn’t cut it for me. We should have a discussion about whether in the context of new technology is the current regulation appropriate for its original intensed purpose or should it be adjusted. I’m not strongly advocating either way, as I can see both sides of this. I just wish we could get last polarizing rhetoric and have open discussions where we all listen, understand and try to appreciate the various points of view. There’s not always a single “right” answer, despite what our current media and political culture wants us to believe.
They are basically a motorcycle.
Meh, as long as laser range finders, gps, centerfire rifles, compound bows, synthetic clothing, spotting scopes and everything modern is allowed in wilderness area's, I see no problem with eBikes
Because clothing and optics are analogous, in terms of their effect on a place, as motorized transportation?
Oh the logic in comparing apples to oranges ... or in this case, watermelons to giraffes.Meh, as long as laser range finders, gps, centerfire rifles, compound bows, synthetic clothing, spotting scopes and everything modern is allowed in wilderness area's, I see no problem with eBikes
No but it seems everyone wants to cherry-pick what should be allowed. You want wilderness area's, then I say lets make it a true wilderness area's. Guess we'll have to cherry pick the white man and the horse hahaha...