CA energy issues

[TOGIE]

As far as infrastructure required to make this work, its really comes down to a smart charger on the wall that has bidirectional power capabilities and more than likely bidirectional metering at the utility meter.

i thought this exact point was actually cited as the biggest roadblock by all the utility infrastructure engineers ("experts" if you will) as to why using all the millions of home rooftops for solar to supplement the grid rather than destroy wildlife habitat for solar was just not realistically possible?

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[jryoung]

The lurking threat to solar power’s growth

Plummeting sunny day solar prices are undermining the economic case to build more solar farms – and putting climate goals at risk.

www.technologyreview.com

The guy that cut all of his almond trees down probably wishes he would have read this first.

The guy that cut his almond orchard down to install solar is probably the same guy that planted an almond orchard with a lack of water rights. Poor decisions are probably the norm for him.

That why I specifically noted a need for a 30yr PPA.

 

[Irrelevant]

The guy that cut his almond orchard down to install solar is probably the same guy that planted an almond orchard with a lack of water rights. Poor decisions are probably the norm for him.

That why I specifically noted a need for a 30yr PPA.

I mean can you blame the guy, you basically don't need a water right for groundwater withdrawals.

 

[SD_Prairie_Goat]

Riiiiiight, so... not to be a Debbie downer
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But I'm going to guess that's all existing? Adding EV charging didn't require that infrastructure? That's what I'm getting at, most of the U.S. Is currently on the power grid, so new lines aren't going to be required. Now some may not be sized correctly anymore, but that's a constant aspect of an aging grid

 

[homers]

Let's add to the fact that many parts of the electric grid are hackable, and only a matter of time before someone takes down the power grid. Nobody will be held accountable.

 

[antlerradar]

Keep in mind that converting from 240 to a higher voltage (600VDC) is really not that difficult if these charges ultimately require that higher voltage to properly operate. The end user wouldn't ever know there was above 240V if they keep the covers closed.

480 is unforgiving. A lose connection or small hole in the insulation and you have a melt down. People do stupid stuff with 120 and 240. Do the same stuff with 480 and they are dead.

 

[Deleted member 28227]

Let's add to the fact that many parts of the electric grid are hackable, and only a matter of time before someone takes down the power grid. Nobody will be held accountable.

Takes 3inches of snow in like 80% of the US to take down the grid.

480 is unforgiving. A lose connection or small hole in the insulation and you have a melt down. People do stupid stuff with 120 and 240. Do the same stuff with 480 and they are dead.

Exactly, I can’t imagine the “grid” above is ready for all of those folks to add an EV to the mix.