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Bozeman: is it really that bad anymore?

I guess Helena wants to build a arena for concerts and crap, raise property taxes again within Lewis and Clark County to help pay for it. It's unfortunately not just bozeman, billings anymore.
 
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I remember. And kind if miss it. mtmuley
Sounds like Kalispell. I was station in Lakeside 1970-1973 when I got discharged. Kalispell was really neat back then, nobody looked down their nose at you for much of anything. Bad thing going around was land on the North shore of Flathead lake were being bought up by part time visitors, out of state's. Was getting hard to find a place to fish off the bank! Well about 15 yrs ago I took my mother up to visit my sister in Kalispell. What a nightmare! It had turned into a hippie getto! Went to eat lunch at a local resturant and the waitress wanted to know if I wanted veggie burger rather than meat, they didn't have meat. Used to be when you went down town from the south you'd go around the city hall and through a big gap of dirt that was at one time a road, it's gone, replaced by a road. Completely ruined all desire to go back to Montana.
 
Also try to avoid it if needed. Living in Helena makes that easy but at times we do have to go to either Bozeangles or Missoula. Usually try to make a plan to get in and out!
Oh bot Missoula, theres another story. After getting discharged I went to Missoula and drove for Mountain Pacific Trucking, on the north side of the city. Back then Missoula was a little po-dunk town that for a city was a nice place. Went through there with my Mom and it's turning into a baby New York city! Going back was a nightmare!
 
Having lived in Missoula from 1983-1998, I still have a soft spot in my heart for that place, regardless of how much it's changed. It's a great city and I'd take it over Bozeman any day. It's an easy day trip from my current home in Helena, and when I go I try to linger and hit up a few of my favorite spots (at least the ones that still exist) rather than rush in and out. Also, I have a friend in East Missoula who has extra bedrooms, which makes a great basecamp for Kettlehouse shows.

And let's not forget the median home price in Missoula is still considerably less than what it is in Bozeman. Not quite half, but pretty close. That right there makes it hard for me to believe anybody would choose Bozeman over Missoula.
 
I like Missoula way more. Would be better if the local politicians had to race upstream at Brennan’s wave doing the backstroke with 200 lb of lead tied to them, and all the bums and heroin addicts could get shipped to Portland, but it’s a nice area.
 
This Sprawling $79 Million Montana Ranch Is the Ultimate Out-West Trophy Estate

"The ranch gets its name after the abundant local elk population; in fact, one herd has made the ranch its home and roams the property. The property also plays host to nearly every Rocky Mountain West animal and bird species, from deer to antelope and eagles. It’s situated at the base of the Bridger Mountains, a subrange of the Rocky Mountains, and is bordered by 72,000 acres of Gallatin National Forest. It’s conveniently located, however, just 11 miles from downtown Bozeman."


I bought a lottery ticket...
 
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This Sprawling $79 Million Montana Ranch Is the Ultimate Out-West Trophy Estate

"The ranch gets its name after the abundant local elk population; in fact, one herd has made the ranch its home and roams the property. The property also plays host to nearly every Rocky Mountain West animal and bird species, from deer to antelope and eagles. It’s situated at the base of the Bridger Mountains, a subrange of the Rocky Mountains, and is bordered by 72,000 acres of Gallatin National Forest. It’s conveniently located, however, just 11 miles from downtown Bozeman."


I bought a lottery ticket...
pffft. $79M? Aspen says 'Hold my beer' - how about 9 figures for a home that borders 2 neighbors and an irrigation ditch:

 
And let's not forget the median home price in Missoula is still considerably less than what it is in Bozeman. Not quite half, but pretty close. That right there makes it hard for me to believe anybody would choose Bozeman over Missoula.
I'd pick the winters in Bozeman any day over the winters in Missoula. Missoula is dark and gloomy with the inversions, and Boz has the x country skiing and downhill, plus more sunshine.

That said, Missoula, in spite of its growth, still has the same vibe today as it did 20+ years ago: a strange combo of liberal hippy college town, old school loggers and fly fishermen, and Griz nation.

Bozeman does not feel anything like it did 20+ years ago.
 
I'd pick the winters in Bozeman any day over the winters in Missoula. Missoula is dark and gloomy with the inversions, and Boz has the x country skiing and downhill, plus more sunshine.

That said, Missoula, in spite of its growth, still has the same vibe today as it did 20+ years ago: a strange combo of liberal hippy college town, old school loggers and fly fishermen, and Griz nation.

Bozeman does not feel anything like it did 20+ years ago.
You need to go back further than 20 years to get to " good Bozeman".😉
 
I moved here in 09. I thought it was a pretty cool spot back then. Still beats where I came from by a lot.
Likely just about everybody feels this way no matter when they moved to Bozeman.
My wife and I have discussed where the next spot might be for us to live. We have some solid possibilities, but the honest truth is where we live now is pretty damn good. Bozeman is part of that thought process, as much as I enjoy railing on her.😁
But I DO believe when I arrived in the mid eighties Montana was a better place. The total outdoor experience was far superior, without a doubt. I miss that.
 
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