Black powder substitutes?

[Papsqueeg]

Here in Pa I go to Dixons in Kutztown. It' a small muzzleloading shop which usually stocks not only Goex, but Swiss, and sometimes Elephant powders in all granulations.
They have a website, that may answer any questions.

As for blackpowder substitutes, 777 is decent.

i go to richs outdoor world in summerville,pa for powder call ahead and they will reserve you some.

 

[bobcat_trapper]

Went into a shop Friday. They had several cans of blackhorn 209. It was 85.00 plus tax a can. I fount a deal from a local guy. He was selling his muzzle loader stuff. I bought 4 10 oz cans for 80.00. Best deal I got in a long time. Arkansas has passed the straight wall cartridge. Usage during muzzle loader season. I was going to look at a 450 bushmaster. When I bought the 4 cans. I have enough blackhorn to do me know.

 

[TX Trophy Hunter]

I wanted to try bh209 but am not really in a position to sell a kidney right now so I just use 777 and things still seem to get dead after I shoot them

 

[Chris d1971]

Took two deer this year using American pioneer powder sub. Wish they still made in it.

 

[Sheltowee]

Took two deer this year using American pioneer powder sub. Wish they still made in it.

Pretty sure the Shooters World Multi-Purpose Black is the same product. I've seen it on the shelf at Scheels fairly regularly and also stocked by most of the reputable internet sellers.

 

[Justabirdwatcher]

I just picked up my new 45 caliber inline yesterday.

Growing up I have always used Goes black powder.
Alas, now finding actual black powder to buy just isn't going to happen.
Aside from making my own.

So looking at substitutes, which is a better choice?
I really didn't care for Pyrodex. Corrosive.

Triple 7 is and has always been my go-to. Easy water cleanup, readily available, great velocities and very accurate. I shot through two cans of BH 209 and I know a lot of people sing its praises, but I'm going back to Triple 7 next year and not looking back.

 

[WildWill]

Triple 7 is and has always been my go-to. Easy water cleanup, readily available, great velocities and very accurate. I shot through two cans of BH 209 and I know a lot of people sing its praises, but I'm going back to Triple 7 next year and not looking back.

I was impressed with what I saw on the range from the BH209. What wasn't impressive was the 2 failure to fires while hunting in the two years I used it. In 10+ years of using I've never had it fail while hunting which is why I switched back.

 

[Justabirdwatcher]

I was impressed with what I saw on the range from the BH209. What wasn't impressive was the 2 failure to fires while hunting in the two years I used it. In 10+ years of using I've never had it fail while hunting which is why I switched back.

Yea, I forgot to mention this sneaky little feature of BH209 - that you MUST use full-strength (read, overpowered) 209 shotgun primers, which of late have been hard to find. I have a stockpile of 209 ML primers, and was forced to hunt with those this season, but upon "unloading" my rifle at the end of the last day, I had a hang fire and the bullet impact was a good 12" low at 100 yards, so I probably would have missed whatever I was shooting at anyway. Right then and there I swore I'd never use it again. Never once had that problem with Triple 7, even with #10 or #11 caps in an old Ruger 77/50. Killed a lot of deer with that combo over the years, out to 140 yards.