Big bucks for big bucks.

[Treeshark]

Yes in the draw. What do you think is going to take place as more and more states keep commercializing wildlife and transferable tags become the norm?

Let’s use NM as an example- landowners are incentivized to improve habitat, elk herds grow, and a boatload of private land gets opened up to public use.

 

[Nick87]

boatload of private land gets opened up to public use

Really?

 

[Forkyfinder]

Let’s use NM as an example- landowners are incentivized to improve habitat, elk herds grow, and a boatload of private land gets opened up to public use.

Show me the change in elk population in trajectory in New Mexico. Growth isnt enough if the population was growing already

 

[Treeshark]

Really?

Yes. Have you researched NM’s landowner tag program at all?

It’s a great setup, it’s really surprising that the writer of the original article used it as a negative example- it does not serve their purpose.

 

[Nick87]

Ma

Yes. Have you researched NM’s landowner tag program at all?

Maybe I missed something. Can you fill me in?

 

[Treeshark]

Ma

Maybe I missed something. Can you fill me in?

Sure thing, I got you dude-

EPlus Info

 

[Nick87]

Sure thing, I got you dude-

EPlus Info

That looks good. It's only ranches that get unit wide tags that are open to the public, not the private ranch only. Also they can hold their season dates whenever they choose if I'm not mistaken which many do outside of the dates for the hunting public. Therefore there's no public access for that hunt. The devil is in the details.

 

[Treeshark]

Also they can hold their season dates whenever they choose if I'm not mistaken which many do outside of the dates for the hunting public.

Are you sure?

 

[Nick87]

Are you sure?

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Have you ever hunted NM ? Draw or otherwise? Have you ever talked to anyone who has and tried to hunt some of those ranches as a public hunter with a draw tag?

 

[Treeshark]

Have you ever hunted NM ? Draw or otherwise? Have you ever talked to anyone who has and tried to hunt some of those ranches as a public hunter with a draw tag?

Let’s first establish the truth on your earlier statement if you don’t mind.

Are NM landowners receiving unit-wide tags really allowed to establish seasons outside of normal public elk hunting seasons (and restrict access during normal public season dates)?

If so, I was not aware of that.

 

[Nick87]

Let’s first establish the truth on your earlier statement if you don’t mind.

Are NM landowners receiving unit-wide tags really allowed to establish seasons outside of normal public elk hunting seasons (and restrict access during normal public season dates)?

If so, I was not aware of that.

First of all, I said if I'm not mistaken. That used to be the case, maybe that has changed in the last couple years. Which is entirely possible. That screenshot you posted is pretty vague description but I'll acknowledge it for what you say it is.

 

[Hilljackoutlaw]

Cow and doe only sell the shit out of em!!
Imagine the income to be made!!

 

[Treeshark]

First of all, I said if I'm not mistaken. That used to be the case, maybe that has changed in the last couple years. Which is entirely possible. That screenshot you posted is pretty vague description but I'll acknowledge it for what you say it is.

Just thought maybe I was missing something.

Remember… I’m dense

 

[Nick87]

I was hoping someone else would confirm.

Remember… I’m dense

Every NM resident hunter I've talked to I about it will tell you how corrupt it is. Except for the ones selling the tags of course. Hopefully one of them will weigh in. I don't want to @ them though either.

 

[Hilljackoutlaw]

If your a resident of a state with over 100k elk and are not guaranteed a tag if you want it. Things aren't very good.

 

[Valley1320]

You guys can twist this pretzel all you want but the end result is going to be fewer tags allocated to average everyday hunters, more tags for T & L from Iowa with deep pockets.
Sure there might be more elk/deer/pronghorn/insert your species on the landscape, but only folks that can afford the buy in will be hunting.

 

[Treeshark]

If your a resident of a state with over 100k elk and are not guaranteed a tag if you want it. Things aren't very good.

Everyone in NM can get an elk tag every year.

 

[Forkyfinder]

Everyone in NM can get an elk tag every year.

You can in texas too.

 

[Hilljackoutlaw]

Everyone in NM can get an elk tag every year.

By sucking dick maybe

 

[Hilljackoutlaw]

I prefer to go to Walmart and purchase my tags