rjthehunter
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Then we pay for their housing and food in jail though. I know police officers, and there's homeless people who will do things in order to go to jail.
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Green Hunter
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Why unhoused people in the US are choosing to go to jail: ‘I kept reoffending’
People on the street who are resistant to shelters face a cruel choice: living rough in the cold or spending time behind barsThis story is co-published with InvestigateWest
Something reminds me of a Ebenezer Scrooge quote - are there no poor houses or jails?
rjthehunter
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It's sad that some people think jail is better than getting a job and living their life.Why unhoused people in the US are choosing to go to jail: ‘I kept reoffending’
People on the street who are resistant to shelters face a cruel choice: living rough in the cold or spending time behind barsThis story is co-published with InvestigateWestwww.theguardian.com
Something reminds me of a Ebenezer Scrooge quote - are there no poor houses or jails?
I have to agree, putting them in jail isn’t optimal, However, what about the cost to society and the economy overall? The graffiti, trash, pooping all over the place, theft, hard drugs, etc.? What about the fixed income and lower income law abiding people that have no choice but to live in the awful areas that are affected? How is it fair to them? That is what bothers me most.
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David58
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Incarceration is an unpopular, uncompassionate approach. Ultimately, it is the solution.
The drugs being used today, particularly the meth coming from Mexico, is wrecking the brains of the folks on the streets who are using it - and the large majority of the homeless are addicted.
It takes months to restore the operation of the brain to near normalcy with the way the meth alters its chemistry. Paranoid, addicted folks do not willingly go to treatment - the only way to get them there is to incarcerate them, "dry them out", and once they are in their right mind present to them the need for treatment.
Anything else has not been shown to work, where in the counties in WV and KY and others have shown that it does. But the folks in charge must have the spine to take action.
You would find it interesting to see the communities surrounding Portland, OR. No "camping", no needles in the parks, because they are welcomed and accomodated in Portland but not in those surrounding communities. Making "safe" campsites is doing nothing but perpetuating the problem.
And, damn China! Where do the cartels get the chemicals to cook this stuff? Why are we letting CHINA kill our kids - and their leaders know EXACTLY what they are doing.
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millerkiller77
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Diced Persian cucumbers in the guacamole? Yeah, or nay?
millerkiller77
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I have ZERO compassion for the homeless plague. Any private citizens giving money to or in any other way encouraging homeless behaviors should be fined, repeat or gross offenders should be imprisoned. Every homeless person should be in a prison, mental institution , or a rehabilitation program. If option three fails, it's automatically into option one or two.
I'm glad the city I live in keeps that shit off the streets by bussing them to other cities, homelessness has been turned into a political tool.
I'm glad the city I live in keeps that shit off the streets by bussing them to other cities, homelessness has been turned into a political tool.
DouglasR
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Welkom to Amerikka…
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longbow51
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Then get rid of your #&^$ pronouns. You're a real man now.@noharleyyet i work the rigs from 3 to midnight...
DouglasR
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Would y’all go 5’x8’ or 6’x10?
I’m bout to get me some of that homelessness.
#****vail. idc what they’re paying, I’m not selling out my mountain.
I’m bout to get me some of that homelessness.
#****vail. idc what they’re paying, I’m not selling out my mountain.
DouglasR
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I’m in no way man enough to do that, but I love to REK.Then get rid of your #&^$ pronouns. You're a real man now.
All time banger:
DouglasR
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Guys who carry their bows over their shoulders get money from their parents for the down payment on their first Airbnb.
Foxtrot1
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I'm sure there are lots of examples that go both ways. I had a timber sale last year right outside of Atlanta. We had to clear a homeless camp before starting. 1 middle aged woman we removed was a victim of domestic abuse. She lived in a tent, showering in the campground, and worked a full time job at a local convenience store. She just didn't have many options when rent in the area is $1500-2000/month. It was heartbreaking to see her situation. Dealing with that has definitely made me think about the trajectory we are on.
noharleyyet
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“…like a thousand tiny diamonds in the lights of loving county”
Little Big Man MT Chris
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I think it’s a mindset too. I wouldn’t stay there. Don’t care if I have to hitchhike, etc I’m going somewhere that I can get a foothold. There’s vast expanses of the Midwest that are dying. Small towns getting smaller, houses almost given away, people desperate for anyone to work. Cost of living is minimal. So if they’ve made the choice that being homeless living on the fringes of society is better than moving to Stapleton Nebraska to run the scale at an elevator or ride pens and have a small house in town, then I don’t know what to say.
It’s a demand problem more than a want problem. Nobody is clamoring to move to Russell KS or Miller SD. If you found the right person they’d let you live in a house for nothing if you’d work for them and pay you a living wage on top of it. Us out here in the boonies get lost on the living wage deal. We can get by without much. $20 an hour here a person can live fairy well on. $20 in LA and you might as well not work.
My point is people aren’t migrating anymore and that’s for a reason. Most of them make that choice and that’s where I lose a little bit of empathy for them.
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