6.5 CM as a hunting cartridge... why?

[The Hedgehog]

@Justabirdwatcher you happen to live at
1132 Murphy Ridge Rd , Strunk, KY, 42649
Was on google maps street view and saw you fondling your creedmor on the drivers side of your Nissan Altima

 

[kodiakisland]

How about a discussion of the 6.5-250 improved. Not the more common 40 degree Ackley but the less common 30 degree RCBS improved. Want to guess what it is practically identical to and will often headspace and fire in with no problem.

Funny how the .250 case, both original and improved has been killing stuff for over a hundred years but now it’s not enough case volume for hunting.

 

[Archer86]

For the little 6.5 creedmoor not being a elk round i watched 4 different elk taken this year with that exact round and not one of them took another step after the shot...

 

[Schutzhund]

I’ve had great results with the 125 HHT in my PRC. Great groups, and terminally have been great on elk 2 years in a row.

6.5 prc?

 

[BAKPAKR]

For the little 6.5 creedmoor not being a elk round i watched 4 different elk taken this year with that exact round and not one of them took another step after the shot...

I don’t usually get whitetail does to drop in their tracks with my 300 RUM. Were these CNS shots?

 

[MTLabrador]

With all this .220 swift talk I’m definitely breaking out the old .22-250 for a bear.

 

[Schutzhund]

.220 swift is a beast.

This thread has provided a lot of entertainment. Thank you.

 

[The Hedgehog]

I’d live to upgrade my .223 but it’ll have to do. Nice to have options though

 

[elevatorman]

I don’t usually get whitetail does to drop in their tracks with my 300 RUM. Were these CNS shots?

Most whitetail i shoot with my 7 rem mag drop right over. I dont think one yets taken a step from that gun. I always shoot high shoulder. I prefer not to track them. Try adjusting where you aim, even heart shots they'll run.

Edit to say I try to take good shots on an animal that's not running so I can place it where I want it. I'm not some gold medal shooter.

 

[Archer86]

I don’t usually get whitetail does to drop in their tracks with my 300 RUM. Were these CNS shots?

1 Was a cns shot. The others were double lung. Kind of surprised me some To see them go down so fast.

 

[BAKPAKR]

Most whitetail i shoot with my 7 rem mag drop right over. I dont think one yets taken a step from that gun. I always shoot high shoulder. I prefer not to track them. Try adjusting where you aim, even heart shots they'll run.

Edit to say I try to take good shots on an animal that's not running so I can place it where I want it. I'm not some gold medal shooter.

1 Was a cns shot. The others were double lung. Kind of surprised me some To see them go down so fast.

Thanks, I usually shoot behind the shoulder.

 

[The Hedgehog]

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[Potsie]

6.5 prc?

Yes. Adds a little more speed to the CM, but a 125 HHT at 2700 fps behaves the same terminally. The bullet doesn’t know what cartridge it came from.

 

[ismith]

With all this .220 swift talk I’m definitely breaking out the old .22-250 for a bear.

I have a .220 Improved Swift that I need to kill some critters with, maybe even an elk.

 

[MT_Fin]

Funny you say that. I was shooting an early mfg, 7.5 lb .300 WSM this morning with a solid rubber butt pad. Made my 7mm-08's feel like .22's by comparison.

Yea, the recoil argument for the 6.5 CM just doesn't hold water IMO. I mean, you don't get to argue that there isn't a difference downrange between the CM and the 7mm-08 or .260, then turn around and say there is a noticeable difference in recoil. Physics doesn't work that way.

Why do you keep bringing up the .260 as if it isn’t functionally identical to the creed?

I’m not a CM fanboy, but I have used numerous rifles so chambered to great effect. It’s not earth shattering, but like most moderate velocity centerfire rifle chamberings, it is an emphatic killer when you put bullets where they are supposed to go.

 

[Schutzhund]

Yes. Adds a little more speed to the CM, but a 125 HHT at 2700 fps behaves the same terminally. The bullet doesn’t know what cartridge it came from.

Exactly. Good point..

 

[GlockZ]

I wonder if there was such a thing as computers and internet available to people back 1925-26, would this same argument be taking place after the release of the then brand new .270 Winchester? Or the same question applied to 1955-56 when the .308 was released. As someone pointed out, the 6.5 Creedmore has been around for 18+ years already. No I don't own one, don't plan on owning one either, what I have already is already more than sufficient for my needs.

 

[TN2shot07]

@Justabirdwatcher - If we’re talking about cartridges that got the shaft you should really look up the one that started this argument, the 30 TC. A 308 sized case that offered 30-06 performance, if that had been marketed correctly we could be having this same discussion about the 308 & 30-06 now being obsolete…

 

[Justabirdwatcher]

I wonder if there was such a thing as computers and internet available to people back 1925-26, would this same argument be taking place after the release of the then brand new .270 Winchester? Or the same question applied to 1955-56 when the .308 was released. As someone pointed out, the 6.5 Creedmore has been around for 18+ years already. No I don't own one, don't plan on owning one either, what I have already is already more than sufficient for my needs.

I'm sure there would have been. Human nature hasn't changed since before the bible. LOL

 

[Justabirdwatcher]

Why do you keep bringing up the .260 as if it isn’t functionally identical to the creed?

I’m not a CM fanboy, but I have used numerous rifles so chambered to great effect. It’s not earth shattering, but like most moderate velocity centerfire rifle chamberings, it is an emphatic killer when you put bullets where they are supposed to go.

Because it already existed. So I'm wondering why the market, especially the hunting market, has supported a clone so much more than it did the .260 (or 7mm-08). I've never seen shelves full of boxes of .260, and yet here is the 6.5 CM, barely its equal, that we now see everywhere.