6.5 CM as a hunting cartridge... why?

[Brick300wm]

Explain? I use believe as an opinion. There aren’t any hard and fast rules. Some have tried to create them. It just doesn’t carry the momentum, mass, and energy to decrease that room for error to where I want it. A 1/2 bath?

Yes I can hit hit bullseyes all day in the “right” situation. What about cross canyon at 423 yards in a 20 mph wind that is variable at the bull of a lifetime?

The idea of placing a quality bullet right where you want it in all conditions is convenient. Hunting isn’t convenient.

Most (id guess 8 to 9 outta 10) hunters couldn’t hit a 10” x 10” target at 423 yards in a true 20mph wind no matter what they are shooting. Add in off a tripod, pack, natural object, good luck with a first round impact. But hey, let’s keep talking about the headstamps!

 

[Hammsolo]

Most (id guess 8 to 9 outta 10) hunters couldn’t hit a 10” x 10” target at 423 yards in a true 20mph wind no matter what they are shooting. Add in off a tripod, pack, natural object, good luck with a first round impact. But hey, let’s keep talking about the headstamps!

What does this have to do with being an elk round?

You’re correct on the first couple sentences.

I love lamp.

 

[Brick300wm]

What does this have to do with being an elk round?

You’re correct on the first couple sentences.

I love lamp.

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I just don’t see how bringing up a shooting scenario that is outside most people capabilities in order to prove / disprove your opinion on what you believe to be an “elk round” helps your argument. Your argument looks like, hey I want a larger cartridge because my ethical shot scenario / distance changes depending on the size of the animal in my scope, therefore I need (insert round) to compensate for a bad shot. And I’m not disagreeing with your stance, I love large calibers. But the argument ehh. I’ll go back to putting mayonnaise in a toaster

 

[Flatbrimmer]

One guy on YouTube from Canada that generally does target related stuff said that 6.5 CM generally are more accurate than other calibers that he tested in the exact model rifles. I think that's a significant reason.

The BC for 6.5 has a lot to like for windrift and drop at longer distances. At closer ranges, I think it compares favorably with 7mm-08/243/308. There are a lot of loads available and rifles of almost every type. It's a very efficient cartridge.

Fwiw, I don't have one. But, I've thought about it.

You and me both, and your justification is perfectly accurate and acceptable to me

 

[The Hedgehog]

I’m convinced that folks who argue on the internet about “cartridges” they don’t think are worthy or equal to for “insert hunting here” don’t ever really do much hunting.

 

[ismith]

The accuracy of a rifle only matters if you are capable of shooting that rifle more accurately than it is capable of. I'd be willing to argue that the accuracy argument isn't valid for most people.

 

[F250]

6.5 CM, 6.5 PRC, 7mm (add whatever letters you want)… just marketing to make ammo and rifle sales. Do any of the new cartridges really kill things deader or more efficiently than the.270 Win. ??

 

[TN2shot07]

6.5 CM, 6.5 PRC, 7mm (add whatever letters you want)… just marketing to make ammo and rifle sales. Do any of the new cartridges really kill things deader or more efficiently than the.270 Win. ??

I really want to build a 280 ackley to find out but at this point it’s leaning toward another 270. They just seem to do most things well (for me) and there’s always that argument about finding ammo at the gas station…

 

[Pucky Freak]

I have one centerfire rifle, the 6.5. I wanted something lighter than the .06’s that I was used to shooting, and I didn’t know how much lighter, so I just guessed. All obscure cartridges were off the table, d/t limited ammo availability. I settled on .270 or 6.5.

Now that I’ve had the gun for 5 years if I could go back I’d get the .270 instead. However, at the end of the day, that is a better decision by just a hair or two.

There are easily a dozen more important decisions to be made in sending a bullet at a game animal than headspace…so much so that these discussions are pretty meaningless.

 

[longbow51]

Nice to see a fresh topic.

 

[Redmt]

Because it does this repeatedly and doesn't kill my already trashed shoulder. That's 6 rounds at 100yds off the bench.

 

[choc dogs]

Because I don't wanna put a scope on my 375H&H. That's why the 6.5 CM is a hunting cartridge for my old eyes, Not any better for deer than my 6.5x55 or 6.5x308, but hey, more ammo selection too. And elk don't exist, like bigfoots and unicorns n stuff.

 

[Islander]

I like the high BCs, low recoil for follow up shots, and the fact that there is the highest selection of factory ammo of all current cartridges. At 62 my natural testosterone is consistently above 500. I'd like to credit the low impact trauma from shooting deadly 6.5 CM, but it's probably just good genetics.

 

[belshawelk]

Here is what I can a say.

I killed my first few elk with a 300WM. I switched t a 30 Nosler; Elk were not dead enough

I killed a bunch if deer and elk with with my 270 WSM- I switched to a .28 Nosler. Ended up killing deader

I have a 6.5 CR ( by accident)- I bought a 6.5-300Weatherby. Even deader deer

Why, because I like shiny new fast things.

Still got the same wife though..................

 

[TheJason]

I had to got out and shoot the deer in my freezer a second time the other day. He wasn’t quite dead, obviously not in the category of “most” deer.

 

[Redmt]

Thinking about it, I think all the deer, hogs and yotes that I shot with a 6.5 are too dead. That's why I have a 25-06 coming. That's my story and I'm sticking to it.

 

[Potsie]

I had to got out and shoot the deer in my freezer a second time the other day. He wasn’t quite dead, obviously not in the category of “most” deer.

How about the elk, did you have to re-shoot it too?

Oh no! Was there any bear left to re-shoot?

 

[TheJason]

How about the elk, did you have to re-shoot it too?

Oh no! Was there any bear left to re-shoot?

I shot the elk twice with my .300 Win mag. I hit it in the void the first time.

No hind legs left of the bear so he can’t run off.

 

[psinclair]

I’m convinced that folks who argue on the internet about “cartridges” they don’t think are worthy or equal to for “insert hunting here” don’t ever really do much hunting.

This^
Who gives an actual f@#$k what rifle/weapons other people use?

 

[brymoore]

I really want to build a 280 ackley to find out but at this point it’s leaning toward another 270. They just seem to do most things well (for me) and there’s always that argument about finding ammo at the gas station…

280ai vs 270 are roughly the same until you start dialing past 400 yards.

I don’t buy ammo at gas stations so that argument doesn’t work for me.