2023 Montana Draw!!!!

[JLS]

Good thing Hank simplified things.

 

[Flatbrimmer]

Yeah, but you think mule deer are like cockroaches in region 3, you obviously are delusional.

Bro. You’re nuts if you can’t find them. They are cockroaches. Strap your velcros up tighter, bud.

 

[DFS]

Bro. You’re nuts if you can’t find them. They are cockroaches. Strap your velcros up tighter, bud.

I took a 10 mile hike this weekend through some of best mule deer habitat you can find. I saw 3 mule deer, not too long ago you would see 100’s. Enjoy your season, it’s the best you will ever see.

 

[tjones]

I took a 10 mile hike this weekend through some of best mule deer habitat you can find. I saw 3 mule deer, not too long ago you would see 100’s. Enjoy your season, it’s the best you will ever see.

Ya but what about that ONE pivot?

 

[MTGunner]

Got the FWP call Saturday. Real surprised it came on the weekend. Nice lady asked if I hunted elk this past season. Explained that I was sick with bronchitis and had to eat all my tags. Tag soup if you please. She was very nice and said with hope this next season will be different. MTG

 

[MThuntr]

Good thing Hank simplified things.

One of the local biologist wants to break up one of the big "simplifications" he was instructed to implement because it's too big of a unit to manage now. It's too late for the change but it'll add more confusion to the mess for 2024. Funny because that was the exact comment I made when it was first proposed and he still moved forward with it.

 

[Irishman]

A hunting partner told me he was thinking of not applying for an elk permit, and just buying a point. I suggested him putting in for unit 380, as it's the same thing as buying a point. Looks like I'll be spending a lot of time in the Elkhorns this year.

 

[Elkoholic]

One of the local biologist wants to break up one of the big "simplifications" he was instructed to implement because it's too big of a unit to manage now. It's too late for the change but it'll add more confusion to the mess for 2024. Funny because that was the exact comment I made when it was first proposed and he still moved forward with it.

322?

 

[MThuntr]

322?

Yep

 

[Unlucky]

I drew unit 324 deer tag!!!

 

[Wind Gypsy]

I think this is what the kids call being "Rick Rolled".

I'm not sure anyone who could operate a computer when rick rolling came out could be considered a kid today!

 

[antlerradar]

Ya but what about that ONE pivot?

Even the pivots are a little sparse the past year.

 

[Deleted member 28227]

I'm not sure anyone who could operate a computer when rick rolling came could be considered a kid today!

No kidding... first Rick Roll was 17 years ago

 

[Brian in Montana]

I might be old, but clearly Rick-Rolling is still a thing.

 

[8andcounting]

Here’s the 2023 Montana NR combination draw stats

Big Game/Elk Combo Drawing Stats 2023 (Total apps 30,985)
3-2.2 PP 100% Draw (4,138 apps)
2 PP 83.9% Draw (10,259 apps, 8,612 successful) .2-1.8 PP 0% Draw (9,443 apps)
0 PP 60.2% Draw (7,055 apps, 4,250 successful)

2023 Deer Combo Drawing Stats 2023 (Total apps 15,929)
3-1.2 PP 100% Draw (5,799 apps)
1 PP 40.2% Draw (5,021 apps, 2,018 successful) .2-.8 PP 0% Draw (243 apps)
0 PP 53.6% (4,866 apps, 2,606 successful)

 

[The Hedgehog]

the deer hunting in MT is excellent!

 

[ignorethefringes]

Here’s the 2023 Montana NR combination draw stats

Big Game/Elk Combo Drawing Stats 2023 (Total apps 30,985)
3-2.2 PP 100% Draw (4,138 apps)
2 PP 83.9% Draw (10,259 apps, 8,612 successful) .2-1.8 PP 0% Draw (9,443 apps)
0 PP 60.2% Draw (7,055 apps, 4,250 successful)

2023 Deer Combo Drawing Stats 2023 (Total apps 15,929)
3-1.2 PP 100% Draw (5,799 apps)
1 PP 40.2% Draw (5,021 apps, 2,018 successful) .2-.8 PP 0% Draw (243 apps)
0 PP 53.6% (4,866 apps, 2,606 successful)

So definitely better to have 0 points than 1 point for both draws. I've heard that speculated but never actually seen it spelled out.

 

[Irishman]

Here’s the 2023 Montana NR combination draw stats

Big Game/Elk Combo Drawing Stats 2023 (Total apps 30,985)
3-2.2 PP 100% Draw (4,138 apps)
2 PP 83.9% Draw (10,259 apps, 8,612 successful) .2-1.8 PP 0% Draw (9,443 apps)
0 PP 60.2% Draw (7,055 apps, 4,250 successful)

2023 Deer Combo Drawing Stats 2023 (Total apps 15,929)
3-1.2 PP 100% Draw (5,799 apps)
1 PP 40.2% Draw (5,021 apps, 2,018 successful) .2-.8 PP 0% Draw (243 apps)
0 PP 53.6% (4,866 apps, 2,606 successful)

So not much incentive to buy preference points. What exactly was the logic to set aside licenses for zero points?

 

[sclancy27]

So not much incentive to buy preference points. What exactly was the logic to set aside licenses for zero points?

Prob outfitters that wanted return clients......

 

[Mountain Man]

Prob outfitters that wanted return clients......

That’s already covered by people able to purchase 2 preference points if they are going with an outfitter. The odds are better with 2 points compared to 0 points so it isn’t the guide and outfitter that benefits from the allocation to zero point holders.