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i'm only about 20 min in, but enjoy it so far, I have very little experience with Patagonia besides seeing the brand name every once in awhile, but first impressions from their brand is focusing on the elist trout fishermen, rock climbers, and hikers?
Or how to save wolves from extinction... Better yet, the griz from the evil trophy hunters. We agree, Wllm.
I find it refreshing to hear arrogant global elitist run their mouth and inadvertently explain to everyone the genius of the constitution.He’s had an interesting life but the conversation went south for me when he referred to our constitution as obsolete.
Then there's the ubiquitous arrogance combined with ignorance, a really dangerous and insidious combination..........................................................................................
There is a well known and recognized mathematical theorem :
Arrogance + Ignorance = Stupidity
I enjoyed the episode. Yvon seemed like he had a lot of awesome life experience. He did also seem to think that everyone that doesn't agree with him is stupid or evil but after a bit of reflection I decided that attitude is par for the course these days. Kinda sad really.
"........first impressions from their brand is focusing on the elist trout fishermen, rock climbers, and hikers"?
First impressions are interesting. Patagonia's been around a long time. I've made fun of them for years. Years ago called 'em "patacantaffordagonia", then "Patagucci", more recently "Pataflat-hatagonia".
However,the best pair of warm weather bird hunting pants I ever had is a Patagonia pair. Beat the shit out of them, four years later - still wearing 'em today. Bought another pair before they got discontinued - If you want a real bitch about outdoor company's..... By contrast, I bought a pair of those hard core hunter lauded First Lite pants - fell apart after one season, JUNK.............................
"Sometimes I think that it is actually best that the heroes of the hunting community are dead. They would be lambasted and ridiculed as liberals idiots if they were alive today". And, "I find it refreshing to hear arrogant global elitist run their mouth ".
Teddy R (Republican....) the great American hunting - more importantly, conservation and public lands - hero, was a real "elitist" in his day. Quite arrogant, too. Imagine how he'd be viewed in this time and by a lotta' people on this very forum - some of which adore him today.
But his arrogance, audacity, and tenacity was backed up by a lotta' witnessing and experience. Amazing the broader the experience, the broader (and more threatening to many) the view..........
Then there's the ubiquitous arrogance combined with ignorance, a really dangerous and insidious combination..........................................................................................
Your crazy to compare Teddy to Bernie.Totally agree.
"Teddy R (Republican....)"- well except this... Roosevelt left the republican part and started the Progressive party.
The Bull Moose party platform:
-Strict limits and disclosure requirements on political campaign contributions
-A national health service to include all existing government medical agencies.
-Social insurance, to provide for the elderly, the unemployed, and the disabled
-A minimum wage law for women
-An eight-hour workday
-An inheritance tax
-Workers' compensation for work-related injuries
Roosevelt was very pro labor, fairly anti-business, very pro-military (albeit) in a age before the military industrial complex, of post WWII.
In the current political space he probably was most similar to Bernie (with noted differences). Fox news would definitely be calling him a Commie.
That was my take on it as well. I also thought his views on the Constitution being obsolete and that California should have more Senators than other states was a good indicator of his political thinking.
Your crazy to compare Teddy to Bernie.
sorry the comparison is crazyAm I? You actually read through their platforms? Military/abortion/nationalism he was in sync with modern Republicans on, certainly not labor/economics/election reform (he was all about direct democracy) definitely not a fan of the electoral college), he hugely valued conservation and protecting the environment.
He definitely wouldn't be a Democrat... but closest presidential candidate today... yeah Bernie.
Bernie? I think Bullock would disagree with you wllm and has just as good of a chance at the nomination as Bernie.Am I? You actually read through their platforms? Military/abortion/nationalism he was in sync with modern Republicans on, certainly not labor/economics/election reform (he was all about direct democracy) definitely not a fan of the electoral college), he hugely valued conservation and protecting the environment.
He definitely wouldn't be a Democrat... but closest presidential candidate today... yeah Bernie.
Bernie? I think Bullock would disagree with you wllm and has just as good of a chance at the nomination as Bernie.
Right. No chance for the nomination. Bernie has no chance with Democrat establishment and has basically come down to a crazy old socialist standing on the corner yelling at people. Not at all inspiring.I'm sure he would