Same guy is an expert on Montana mule deer management I think. mtmuley
Yet Another Vortex Going in for Warranty
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Same guy
rjthehunter
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Steve could have had a canted gun too? He left it at a miss. I'm sure he would've elaborated on it if his scope was off zero after the fact. If he talked about it in a podcast, and can't understand how he missed, then my guess is it was still zero'd in. Otherwise he would know why he missed. A scope being knocked off its zero isn't necessarily the scopes fault.
Randy's rifle might have returned to zero, but did it dial up correctly? He missed at 400 yards, not 100. A scope can return to zero just fine, but still track like crap. Randy would leave that out of his bit too if it was the scopes fault.
My point is, to just assume someone missed because of what they're using is ridiculous. The scope and rifle combination will shoot more consistently than you will 9.9/10 times.
ImBillT
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Every single time I see Randy dial and miss I wonder if it was the dialing or the ranging that caused the miss, or something else. While I have to assume that he has tested those dials at various ranges I still wonder.
Every time I see anyone, on any show, dialing a high powered rifle at under 300yds I cringe a little bit.
I’ve had my share of misses, some of them rather painful/embarrassing but I almost always have some explanation for them. In 2020 I had two on one animal that I still have trouble wrapping my head around. Close. Broadside. Standing still. Makes me sick. I guess it happens.
Obviously it could have been poor marksmanship as well. Clearly my post was not saying the only reason he could have possibly missed is because he was using a Vortex scope. Just a coincidence that is humorous to me and other folks here.
Irrelevant
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That's 10/10 for me. Doesn't even matter what rifle or scope it is.
He should stick to scopes. And I know Loopy's aren't the best, but mine have been beaten and twisted. mtmuley
Wheres the thread ? Ive tried to find it to no avail ?
S-3 Ranch
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https://www.rokslide.com/forums/threads/vortex-razor-hd-lht-4-5-22x50mm-q-a.246586/page-5
start on page 1 ,
imo most of the ” test” are kinda redundant and ridiculous mostly about mil tac when I read it
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Yes they are redundant, that is the point.
brocksw
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There was 1 or 2 things he said that I agreed with. Obviously, him and I could be wrong but I absolutely think shortening seasons will not mean less deer killed. I think success rates for the same number of tags will be nearly identical.
He goes a bit overboard with it, but in general he is right that you can shoot a lot of bucks off a landscape and still get does bred. Dr. Monteith confirms this.
Post in thread 'Montana mule deer Expectations.' https://www.hunttalk.com/threads/montana-mule-deer-expectations.311656/post-3344045
Vortex Razor HD LHT 4.5-22x50mm Field Eval
Ryan Avery asked if I would review this scope in the same vein as the Meopta Optika 6 and Tanget Theta evaluations and I agreed. I get queried about these scopes almost as much as any, and even though I have seen poor performance from the prior LHT’s, this is a different design and will be...
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Expectations are different. mtmuley
woods89
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They just got it back from Vortex, with a clean bill of health, so round 2 will apparently happen shortly.......Vortex Razor HD LHT 4.5-22x50mm Field Eval
Ryan Avery asked if I would review this scope in the same vein as the Meopta Optika 6 and Tanget Theta evaluations and I agreed. I get queried about these scopes almost as much as any, and even though I have seen poor performance from the prior LHT’s, this is a different design and will be...
I didnt see any leupolds tested ?? Lots of reading and bickering on that thread though !Vortex Razor HD LHT 4.5-22x50mm Field Eval
Ryan Avery asked if I would review this scope in the same vein as the Meopta Optika 6 and Tanget Theta evaluations and I agreed. I get queried about these scopes almost as much as any, and even though I have seen poor performance from the prior LHT’s, this is a different design and will be...
They have been earlier before they started archiving the tests. I’d have to dig
BackofBeyond
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I’m no expert, but when shooting at steep up angles the rear rest becomes critical. Very common to toss the bullet high, such as Randy’s goat hunt, because lack of a good rest at the back.
I would doubt it had anything to do with his CDS. Even if he dialed the 325 distance for line of sight, his actual drop would have been ~200 - 250 yards mas-a-manos… not a huge difference in drop for a 7mmHT between 325 and 200 - at least enough to explain tossing multiple bullets that far over its back.
Rear rest. Haven’t seen the Meat Eater episode, but sounds like the same issue? Shot high with no likely explinatuin? Not the glas, it was the rear rest.
I would doubt it had anything to do with his CDS. Even if he dialed the 325 distance for line of sight, his actual drop would have been ~200 - 250 yards mas-a-manos… not a huge difference in drop for a 7mmHT between 325 and 200 - at least enough to explain tossing multiple bullets that far over its back.
Rear rest. Haven’t seen the Meat Eater episode, but sounds like the same issue? Shot high with no likely explinatuin? Not the glas, it was the rear rest.
woods89
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From what I understand, a Mark 5 test is coming. They've been dropping about 1 per week.
S-3 Ranch
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Thusly my comment on redundant, guy loves stiring the pot on optics of less then $600 -$1000
Looks like the Mark 5 didn’t hold zero
