Wyoming Corner Crossing Defense Fund

[BuzzH]

I bought my house from James, he is quite the character. I have also run across the the taxidermist who confronted the 4 originally. Kinda fun knowing who these people are. But as you mentioned I suspect many of the people they know do not support what they have done in this situation.

I think both have burned bridges.

Not to say they aren't both good at what they do or that their actions have consequences.

 

[Cornell Cowboy]

Another update on the case:

Hunters, landowner, pilot all on corner-crossing trial witness list - WyoFile

In a civil trespassing case, lawyers have named potential witnesses for a trial that seeks $9 million and tests a public-land access claim.

wyofile.com

 

[Dakotakid]

This does not compute-
“The lists also include the Elk Mountain Ranch property manager, law enforcement officials, surveyors and a fly-in public-land hunter from Colorado. Pilot Kyle Scott may testify that Eshelman harassed him and scared away game after Scott landed a plane or helicopter to hunt on public land adjacent to the ranch.”

Maybe this makes sense to Viking or one of the legal eagles.

 

[Bluffgruff]

This does not compute-
“The lists also include the Elk Mountain Ranch property manager, law enforcement officials, surveyors and a fly-in public-land hunter from Colorado. Pilot Kyle Scott may testify that Eshelman harassed him and scared away game after Scott landed a plane or helicopter to hunt on public land adjacent to the ranch.”

Maybe this makes sense to Viking or one of the legal eagles.

I'm thinking this is a list from both parties' lawyers.

 

[USMC123456789]

Elk Mountain Ranch owner: ‘We should have control’ of corner-crossing - WyoFile

In depositions filed in a federal lawsuit with implications for access to 8.3 million acres of public land, Fred Eshelman gives his side of the story.

wyofile.com

Update to the lawsuit.

 

[Pucky Freak]

 

[winmag]

Sounds like he should be suing his real estate agent for bad advice related to corner crossing, not the hunters whose bodies wisped through "his" airspace.

 

[Carl 9.3x62]

Interesting update

Ranch owner: No $7M claim if judge rules corner crossers trespassed - WyoFile

At Elk Mountain Ranch, Eshelman also says GPS data shows that a hunter marked a waypoint on his property and was not just passing through airspace.

wyofile.com

 

[Nameless Range]

Interesting update

Ranch owner: No $7M claim if judge rules corner crossers trespassed - WyoFile

At Elk Mountain Ranch, Eshelman also says GPS data shows that a hunter marked a waypoint on his property and was not just passing through airspace.

wyofile.com

If a corner post is accurate and is a physical thing you can see, One could step from public to public without ever touching foot to private.

Your on x way points are never that accurate. Not from your phone, not on your GPS. Typical variability and error would be measured in meters and often tens of meters.

 

[Sytes]

Curious of the marking...

I, as most all here, know I can mark where I see elk off in the distance, etc. Tagging a location is not evidence a person was at that location. This seems to be the intent as only one mark was declared and not a trailed pattern.

Second, regardless, this is not a factor of this case, in my Randy11 defined expert opinion. Separate accusation w/o relevance to articulated facts in this case.

Third, I like cheesecake. Graham cracker crust and maybe some strawberry or blackberries, if not straight plain beautiful cheesecake.

 

[kansasdad]

Also, I can place a waypoint in the middle of the Bronx Zoo elephant enclosure, while sitting on my couch in flyover country

@Sytes great minds thinking alike

 

[Dave N]

Read the article and I have a question about OnX. When you mark a way point does it register the time or date you do it?

 

[Derek44]

Curious of the marking...

I, as most all here, know I can mark where I see elk off in the distance, etc. Tagging a location is not evidence a person was at that location. This seems to be the intent as only one mark was declared and not a trailed pattern.

Second, regardless, this is not a factor of this case, in my Randy11 defined expert opinion. Separate accusation w/o relevance to articulated facts in this case.

Third, I like cheesecake. Graham cracker crust and maybe some strawberry or blackberries, if not straight plain beautiful cheesecake.

Huckleberries

 

[Sytes]

Read the article and I have a question about OnX. When you mark a way point does it register the time or date you do it?

This is a tad east of Morocco, maybe Algeria? I stepped into a phone booth and darn it, OnX tattled on me! I'm not able to change the date though maybe because I've not tried. Maybe there's a method?

 

[Derek44]

Read the article and I have a question about OnX. When you mark a way point does it register the time or date you do it?

All of my saved waypoints have a time and date stamp

 

[Dave N]

All of my saved waypoints have a time and date stamp

Ok. So IF he marked it when they were there hunting it might matter. If he marked it at any other time Fred can kiss his ass.

 

[Southern Elk]

Read the article and I have a question about OnX. When you mark a way point does it register the time or date you do it?

Yes

 

[Southern Elk]

If you don’t believe onX can be a little off, turn on your location and watch it dance around.

 

[winmag]

Who cares if he was hunting while he marked a waypoint? I’d mark where I saw elk, regardless of who’s property they were standing on.

 

[TOGIE]

does the onX metadata differentiate between a “mark my location” way point and a random way point your throw on the map?

I suspect these aren’t even “mark my location” way points and it’s a nothing burger that Fred is all worked up over