WY one shot pronghorn hunt...circling the drain

[Mosquito]

I don't argue this right. I agree and strongly stand behind all things in support of it. However, the idea of ridiculously pricing a tag doesn't infringe this right. I'm fact the conceptual concept of the idea is to actually improve that right by provide the opportunity to MORE citizens allowing more to enjoy it. In my example, taking all 10 elk tags and selling them all to the highest bidder would be wrong.

I value your opinion and your open mind. However I 100% disagree .

 

[wytex]

I don't understand option two. I'm a nasty land owner that doesn't give two shits about the elk. I just care about my hay sales and by removing it before the elk get there, none left for them. The population in this region will never be the same again without that feed. So to your first option, that is very well possible. The herd population objectives are just now lower and it aligns with what @LopeHunter would do. But doesn't that create less opportunity for the hunter? Doesn't this argument stem on the premise of opportunity?

You do know hay keeps growing even after you cut it, unless you cut it too short then you'll have issues next spring.
I know what happens in the area we work a ranch, they elk find another place to feed when they get pushed out.
The opportunity now lies somewhere else, wildlife in our state is not managed for private property benefit. The owner will not receive any damage compensation because they do not allow hunting.

 

[Bigjay73]

what would be nice is if a guy with a spare 10 mill, just donated it under the premise that every cent went directly to sheep, elk, javelina, Prarie dogs, whatever. Where's that guy at?

 

[oleefish2]

Just so you all know the One Shot hunt was canceled for 2020.

 

[seeth07]

Edited by Big Fin.

 

[ignorethefringes]

Bingo....costs money. It's where I was going with this example.

Sustainable elk at acceptable hunting populations=money

"Today on hunttalking while high and, "Let's move the goalposts!" . . . ."

No it's not. It all comes down to the value of the herd. How much is a reduction in 90 tags worth? What if one extra tag sold at 100k in a state raffle or auction solely funds that easement and gets the population back up to where it's at 100 elk tags again? That one tag, one bought elk funds 90 tags....sounds like a great ratio to me

And what has been said time and time again is that the $100K for the easement isn't the problem. That money will come from somewhere other than Mr. Wealthy Dude. In your own example, the landowner was a bastard and didn't allow that easement. So that $100K didn't buy jack, and the opportunity actually declined due to selling 1 tag to the highest bidder.

You keep spouting off random hypothetical scenarios which happen to work in your favor while ignoring real world examples others are giving that show it doesn't work.

 

[Irrelevant]

So we can either fund wildlife through a few tags to the rich, similar to the European system, or we can fund it through donations and general taxes. Yes, I could see where in the short term you could get more wildlife with the former (less hunting, more money), but you lose the long game by losing advocates and obviously hunting goes away for most people. What people on here are saying is that they can work with the grey area in the middle, most tags issued democratically and try to raise additional revenue, and some tags for lots of money to help raise that revenue.

 

[Pucky Freak]

If anyone’s interested, the first 15 mins of the Meateater Podcast ep. 20 are One Shot participants sharing their perspective on the event, including Governor Meade falsely claiming that the event is put on by THE Shoshone tribe.

 

[rtraverdavis]

Rinella speaks at length about the One Shot and his participation in it in this week’s Meateater podcast. For everyone who’s been waiting for him to speak on it, check it out. Pretty different spin on the whole thing than what Buzz and JM77 have shown.

 

[NR_Hunter]

woooow they're gonna let women into the Lander one shot hunt. Incredible, pretty soon WY is gonna let them drive cars and vote.

 

[rwc101]

Didn't hear anything that changed my opinion one bit.

 

[Deleted member 18333]

woooow they're gonna let women into the Lander one shot hunt. Incredible, pretty soon WY is gonna let them drive cars and vote.

Wyo was the first US state or territory to allow women to vote. Now driving, lets not get ahead or ourselves here.

 

[Hunting Wife]

I’m gonna need to see some mani/pedi’s and shopping excursions arranged for the men before I’m satisfied...

 

[Deleted member 18333]

I’m gonna need to see some mani/pedi’s and shopping excursions arranged for the men before I’m satisfied...

Would making the women on the loosing teams dress up like Indian Chiefs do it for you?

 

[Hunting Wife]

Would making the women on the loosing teams dress up like Indian Chiefs do it for you?

Maybe we should change the dress up to an appropriately ambiguous costume and call it the Wyoming Hunting Costume until a suitable alternative is selected.

 

[Elkmagnet]

Would making the women on the loosing teams dress up like Indian Chiefs do it for you?

I'm intrigued.....

 

[Elkmagnet]

Rinella speaks at length about the One Shot and his participation in it in this week’s Meateater podcast. For everyone who’s been waiting for him to speak on it, check it out. Pretty different spin on the whole thing than what Buzz and JM77 have shown.

It felt like reaching to justify ones involvement. If you feel the need to justify them maybe theirs a problem.
I'm a big fan but...

 

[Deleted member 18333]

Maybe we should change the dress up to an appropriately ambiguous costume and call it the Wyoming Hunting Costume until a suitable alternative is selected.

I can think of nothing more degrading than this costume.

 

[Ben Lamb]

Wyo was the first US state or territory to allow women to vote. Now driving, lets not get ahead or ourselves here.

Fun fact: The Wyoming legislature immediately introduced a bill to rescind suffrage to women in 1870, after passing the suffrage act of 1869. The Territorial Governor vetoed it. Wyoming was also one of the first states to allow people of any race to vote as well. Except Native Americans, who had to wait until 1924.

 

[Deleted member 18333]

Fun fact: The Wyoming legislature immediately introduced a bill to rescind suffrage to women in 1870, after passing the suffrage act of 1869. The Territorial Governor vetoed it. Wyoming was also one of the first states to allow people of any race to vote as well. Except Native Americans, who had to wait until 1924.

Way to bring us down off our superiority high