Wolve are protected again

[sweetnectar]

I love Wyoming.

 

[Ben Lamb]

I love Wyoming.

Me too, born and raised. But their wolf management means less elk for Wyomingites.

 

[TOM IN TENNESSEE]

Aingt it great to have state G&F and FWS hunring wolves on your taxdollars rather than us?!?!?

 

[tjones]

Montana Fish Wildlife and Parks does not operate on tax dollars.

 

[Sytes]

Montana Fish Wildlife and Parks does not operate on tax dollars.

not true...

The State of Montana has a biannual budget cycle, with state agencies on a two-year budget cycle. The state's constitution requires a balanced budget.

In 2009, the Montana Department of Fish, Wildlife and Parks had annual revenues of $87,080,733.[19] The state legislature appropriated $1,895,500 (2.2 percent of all revenues), with other state revenues (largely from dedicated taxes and fees) amounting to $10,563,367 (12.1 percent of all revenues).[19] Federal funds account for $17,457,006 in 2009 revenues (20.0 of all revenues), while hunting and fishing licenses accounted for $57,164,860, or 65.7 percent of the Department's 2009 revenues.[19]

The Montana Department of Fish, Wildlife and Parks had total expenditures of $87,080,733 in 2009, of which $13,040,700 were capital expenditures and $74,040,033 were operational expenditures.[2] When expenditures are broken down by divisional costs rather than capital vs. operating budget, the Fish and Wildlife Division spent $57,880,940 (66.5 percent of all expenditures), the Parks Division spent $15,104,493 (17.3 of all expenditures), and the Management and Finance Division spent $14,095,300 (or 16.2 percent of all expenditures) in 2009.[2] The operational budget for the Parks Division was about $8 million in 2008, and came from more than 18 different sources.[20]

The department had 693 full-time equivalent employees in May 2009, of which 197 were seasonal or temporary.[1] These include 74 field game wardens, six uniformed investigators, and three covert investigators in addition to a number of game sergeants and game captains.[21] In April 2010, Governor Brian Schweitzer asked state agencies for a 4 percent across-the-board reduction in personnel. However, the Department of Fish, Wildlife and Parks was exempt from the personnel reductions since most of its revenues came from hunting and fishing licenses.[22][23]

 

[Wyodeerhunter]

i love wyoming too guys!

 

[tjones]

Keep researching Sytes just make sure you understand what you find.

 

[dan.kirkpatrick]

I heard wolf tags are available in canada over the counter for about 50 bucks,why cant we do that in the U.S.?

 

[Sytes]

Tjones, I am very receptive to critiqued info related to presenting accurate info. If you have info to suggest "Montana Fish Wildlife and Parks does not operate on tax dollars", I would certainly be appreciative. Not being rude about this - simply attempting to understand your statment and "researching" for info that supports MTFWP does not have operation costs associated with taxes... The Federal gov't gave MTFWP some 18mil in '09... Unless we are considering this to be IOU's from China, the Fed $ would be associated with your, mine and everyother tax paying citizen of America...

“Wolf recovery in the northern Rocky Mountains from 1973 through 2002 cost about $15,200,000 (with no adjustments for inflation). If recovery continues at the current rate and management costs remain within predictions, wolf delisting should be completed in 2004 at an additional cost to taxpayers of $1,400,000 annually for 2003 and 2004. The total cost for the restoration, management, recovery, and delisting of wolves between 1973 and late 2004 should be about $18,000,000.”—Rocky Mountain Wolf Recovery 2002 Annual Report

http://fwp.mt.gov/doingBusiness/reference/montanaChallenge/vignettes/wolf.html

The Transportation Equity Act of the 21st Century (TEA21) established the Recreation Trails Program (RTP), which provides for the transfer of federal gas taxes paid on non-highway recreational fuel in off-highway vehicles to the Federal Highway Administration (FHWA). Montana Fish, Wildlife & Parks (FWP) administers the RTP funds at the state level, while the Federal Highways Administration (FHWA) provides program oversight at the federal level.

http://fwp.mt.gov/recreation/grants/rtp/

Montana’s successful tradition of wildlife management has largely come from hunting and fishing license dollars and taxes on equipment.This unique federal and state funding arrangement has afforded Montana great opportunities to work on sport fish and game species.

1937 Federal Aid in Wildlife Restoration Act/Pittman-Robertson Act became law. It earmarked excise taxes on sporting arms and ammunition for land acquisition, development, and research. The act also prohibited the diversion of hunting license revenue to projects unassociated with hunted species. Since its passage, Montana has received over $125 million through the 2004 fiscal year.

1950 Federal Aid in Sport Fish Restoration Act/Dingell-Johnson Act was passed, modeling the Pittman-Robertson Act, only earmarking excise taxes on fishing equipment. Through fiscal year 2004, Montana has received over $100 million.

http://www.teaming.com/pdf/mt interconnections.pdf

This unique program, which is comprised of many different elements, is administered by the FWP Parks Division and the FWP Law Enforcement Bureau. The program’s funding sources include snowmobile registration fees, gasoline taxes, dealer registration fees, and nonresident permit fees. One of the main components of the program is the snowmobile grant program.

http://fwp.mt.gov/recreation/grants/snowmobiles/factSheet.html

...other state revenues (largely from dedicated taxes and fees) amounting to $10,563,367

(2009) - Referenced below.

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Keep researching Sytes just make sure you understand what you find.

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Montana Fish Wildlife and Parks does not operate on tax dollars.

not true...

The State of Montana has a biannual budget cycle, with state agencies on a two-year budget cycle. The state's constitution requires a balanced budget.

In 2009, the Montana Department of Fish, Wildlife and Parks had annual revenues of $87,080,733.[19] The state legislature appropriated $1,895,500 (2.2 percent of all revenues), with other state revenues (largely from dedicated taxes and fees) amounting to $10,563,367 (12.1 percent of all revenues).[19] Federal funds account for $17,457,006 in 2009 revenues (20.0 of all revenues), while hunting and fishing licenses accounted for $57,164,860, or 65.7 percent of the Department's 2009 revenues.[19]

The Montana Department of Fish, Wildlife and Parks had total expenditures of $87,080,733 in 2009, of which $13,040,700 were capital expenditures and $74,040,033 were operational expenditures.[2] When expenditures are broken down by divisional costs rather than capital vs. operating budget, the Fish and Wildlife Division spent $57,880,940 (66.5 percent of all expenditures), the Parks Division spent $15,104,493 (17.3 of all expenditures), and the Management and Finance Division spent $14,095,300 (or 16.2 percent of all expenditures) in 2009.[2] The operational budget for the Parks Division was about $8 million in 2008, and came from more than 18 different sources.[20]

The department had 693 full-time equivalent employees in May 2009, of which 197 were seasonal or temporary.[1] These include 74 field game wardens, six uniformed investigators, and three covert investigators in addition to a number of game sergeants and game captains.[21] In April 2010, Governor Brian Schweitzer asked state agencies for a 4 percent across-the-board reduction in personnel. However, the Department of Fish, Wildlife and Parks was exempt from the personnel reductions since most of its revenues came from hunting and fishing licenses.[22][23]

 

[tjones]

Keep working, you are getting there.

 

[montanadogs]

Fowladdict- some big burly guy said that I had a pretty mouth. I dropped the shovel and ran. I was just simply saying that Molloy said it was coming. Correct me if I'm wrong but can't you shoot a wolf on site in most of the state? The area around the Grand Tetons and Yellowstone is were you can't. I'm not 100% on that but that is what I've heard. I still agree with SSS but I'm not going to be bragging about it.

 

[Sytes]

Haha! Cheers - Tjones. I take it, your comment, "Montana Fish Wildlife and Parks does not operate on tax dollars" a bit of friendly sarcasm...

Anyhow, back to the topic. Wolves - yep... they are protected, again. Cheers Wyoming.

 

[Ben Lamb]

Fowladdict- some big burly guy said that I had a pretty mouth. I dropped the shovel and ran. I was just simply saying that Molloy said it was coming. Correct me if I'm wrong but can't you shoot a wolf on site in most of the state? The area around the Grand Tetons and Yellowstone is were you can't. I'm not 100% on that but that is what I've heard. I still agree with SSS but I'm not going to be bragging about it.

Wyoming's plan calls for a dual classification. Inside a line that encompasses the National Parks, and the area from the MT/WY state line, east to Highway 120, down to Metteetsee, then across the Forest Boundary to roughly Dubois, then down the Forest again to roughly Pinedale, back up (Northwest) the FS Boundary to 191, and then 191 over to the ID border.
http://gf.state.wy.us/wolfinformation/wolfQ&As.pdf

This area is similar for the Grizzly Bear Primary Conservation Area. Any wolf outside of this area would be classified as a predator, and would have no regulatory mechanism in place to manage harvest.

The third S is the most important.

 

[JoseCuervo]

RMEF is under the partners tab for this website. I like OYOA and RMEF. I also like the picture of the dude with the shovel.

Should we censor our criticisms of RMEF because of OYOA's "partner" relationship?

 

[lilbiggun]

I do feel for you folks. I also wish I would stay more current with your politics.

AK was recently sued to stop our pred control (tageting dogs and bears). Our judge ruled that everything is legal and basically keep doing what were doing (in a nutshell).

We maybe able to send this judge your way if you want.

 

[sweetnectar]

All money spent on a license, permit, junk fee, etc that goes to a government agency is a tax. A tax is a tax is a tax. And yes Montana FWP is a government agency that operates on taxes like all the others.

 

[fowladdict]

Should we censor our criticisms of RMEF because of OYOA's "partner" relationship?

Nobody said that...Personally I think they do some damn good things and a few things that baffle me. Kind of like my wife and I still love her.

 

[Brentster7189]

I'm not sure how accurate this info is because I don't really get that deep into politics. Maybe some of you that do can comment on it. I know there is a lot to it, but it makes sense to elect those that would be on your side. But although they may be positive for the wolf situation...they may have other political views that aren't so positive regarding other issues, so I guess it's not a slam dunk on supporting them.

http://imwithlucas.wordpress.com/2010/08/10/idaho-among-wolves/