Wildife Task force 90-10, etc.

[madtom]

Anybody know if there will be any NR sheep or moose tags issued this year for those with less than the number of preference points required to draw? My assumption is no. The question presented to WGFD staff at the WSF show this week was mostly met with blank stares.

If area quota = 40
NR total = 4
NR w pp = 3
NR random = 1

If that math is correct, 40 would be minimum quota. My assumption is your assumption is correct. No random NR tags unless quotas increase or they do some creative rounding.

 

[Oak]

If area quota = 40
NR total = 4
NR w pp = 3
NR random = 1

If that math is correct, 40 would be minimum quota. My assumption is your assumption is correct. No random NR tags unless quotas increase or they do some creative rounding.

Right, that's the point I was trying to make. Unless there are 40+ total tags in a unit, no random tags.

 

[JM77]

SF60 died on introduction.

SF60 died because a Senator pointed out that revenue bills are required to be introduced by the House according to the Wyo Constitution. I am told it will be reintroduced as a House bill.

 

[JM77]

Right, that's the point I was trying to make. Unless there are 40+ total tags in a unit, no random tags.

I believe the G&F will work toward taking 25% of the total NR moose and sheep and spreading them out as random tags in different areas each year. They will give that info out at application time.

 

[Rhcuam]

Bring some chatter that SF 60 has been introduced in the house, is that correct?

 

[Archer86]

https://wyoleg.gov/Legislation/2023/HB0200

Unfortunately it has been introduced

 

[Southern Elk]

Am I reading correctly that a NR antelope license will cost $874? If so, I have likely hunted my last Wyoming antelope.

 

[TOGIE]

good grief.

after the committee snubbed the special fee increase? what are the odds this thing passes?

i gotta imagine slim to none.

i hope...

edit: just re read previous posts. it died on a technicality, not in committee, or whatever.

so, what's the pulse from folks up close on this passing or not?

 

[Schaaf]

Ooofta, those prices are a little high.

 

[Deleted member 28227]

Ooofta, those prices are a little high.
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Whelp there goes my subsidy... thanks Obama

 

[Dougfirtree]

Those are regular prices, not special draw?

 

[Archer86]

Am I reading correctly that a NR antelope license will cost $874? If so, I have likely hunted my last Wyoming antelope.

It's the 874 plus the price of a regular licenses so it will be north of 1000 for a special antelope tag if this passes hopefully it doesn't.

 

[PrairieHunter]

So everyone will complain if this happens.

Then one of two things will happen.

The next year the draw odds will stay about the same, with only a few people dropping out, most of whom only had a few points so the odds really won't change.

Or

A lot of people will drop out of the game and a small group with more $ for hunting will see years come off how long it takes to draw tags.



I know which one I expect.

 

[TOGIE]

So everyone will complain if this happens.

Then one of two things will happen.

The next year the draw odds will stay about the same, with only a few people dropping out, most of whom only had a few points so the odds really won't change.

Or

A lot of people will drop out of the game and a small group with more $ for hunting will see years come off how long it takes to draw tags.



I know which one I expect.

i really couldn't care less one which one of the two things happens.

i just know i won't be doing much hunting anymore in wyoming for a good number of years with my current budget after 2023 if it does pass. which sucks.

there is plenty of midwest whitetail hunting that could be had for an $800+ wyoming pronghorn or deer tag. #*^@#* that man.

 

[rtraverdavis]

Those are regular prices, not special draw?

I believe those are the application fees for applying in the special draw. The way the bill is drafted makes it pretty confusing though.

 

[Carl 9.3x62]

Even as a resident I think those prices seem pretty steep. What's the reasoning behind an antelope license more expensive than deer?

 

[WildWill]

Even as a resident I think those prices seem pretty steep. What's the reasoning behind an antelope license more expensive than deer?

Maybe antelope demand (point creep) has been worse than deer just a guess.

 

[RobertD]

I agree to pay over 1k for an antelope hunt is a lot, BUT if it's a once every 5-10 years thing, which for me it is regardless due to other hunts/nonhunting interests, I'm probably still game. But that's just me.

Edit just to share some thoughts: If you want to go guided in most antelope-having states it's going to run you two thousand on the low end, much more on the high end, depending on a few factors. If the price increases actually prompts real demand destruction and makes what's currently a 12 pt tag a 6 or 7 pt tag then it may be a bargain compared to many alternatives.

I do have to admit though that it is a real shame that for all the handwringing over antelope demand and point creep in Wyoming there is almost no discourse anywhere about the serious decline in antelope population that has happened simultaneously. And I am not innocent there myself.

 

[WapitiBob]

Special elk 1965
Special deer/Antelope 1215

 

[Buschy]

Working on cashing in WY points for myself and my family ASAP. When points are gone, we will be out of the WY game and leave it to others to chase tags. I am not upset with WY at all. We have a had a good run with NR, DIY hunting, but the prices are getting a little crazy. Hunting continues to change and I find myself thinking about fishing and golfing more.