Who's holding up wolf delisting?!

[Ithaca 37]

"Feds Delay Gray Wolf Protection Decision
Tue Jan 13, 6:49 PM ET

By BECKY BOHRER, Associated Press Writer

BILLINGS, Mont. - The U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service postponed a decision Tuesday on whether to drop federal protection for gray wolves, which were hunted nearly to extinction decades ago but have made a remarkable recovery since the 1990s..............
The agency said the state of Wyoming has failed to submit an adequate plan for protecting the animals if the federal government were to step aside......If the agency had found all three state plans acceptable, it planned to propose removing all federal protections for the animals in the Northern Rockies and turning management over to Montana, Wyoming and Idaho.


All three states were officially hostile to wolf reintroduction from its start, with ranchers afraid the wolves would prey on their livestock and pets.


Ranchers want the states to retake control over the wolves from the federal government, arguing that would give them more of a say."

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=514&e=6&u=/ap/20040113/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/wolf_protections


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Looks like it's the ranchers who are holding up delisting. Probably welfare ranchers!

Why don't some of you wolf haters explain to us again how the environmentalists are going to be the ones stopping the delisting? I suppose some environmental groups may oppose delisting , but they're sure not the ones who are stopping it now. You can place all the blame on Wyoming cattlemen.

 

[1_pointer]

I think their plan would have a much better chance of passing if they'd go to regulated hunting in all areas and drop the predator status. Just make the quotas higher on the sections outside of the Yellowstone and adjoining wilderness areas.

 

[Ten Bears]

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR> All three states were officially hostile to wolf reintroduction from its start <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
And why wouldn't we be, we already had wolves here to begin with.
<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR> Why don't some of you wolf haters explain to us again how the environmentalists are going to be the ones stopping the delisting? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR> The agency said the state of Wyoming has failed to submit an adequate plan for protecting the animals if the federal government were to step aside......If the agency had found all three state plans acceptable <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> That is the key, and as long as they find fault with one states management plans, none of the three states will ever get control.

 

[Ithaca 37]

Ten, "That is the key, and as long as they find fault with one states management plans, none of the three states will ever get control."

You're a genius! Thanks for figuring that out and telling us!

 

[Ten Bears]

So IT, tell us how: <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR> If the agency had found all three state plans acceptable "That is the key, and as long as they find fault with one states management plans, none of the three states will ever get control." <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Has to do with: <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR> Looks like it's the ranchers who are holding up delisting. Probably welfare ranchers! <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

 

[Calif. Hunter]

Nope. It's my brother's fault. Greg Van Stralen, Senior Biologist, Endangered Species Division, USF&WS.

 

[dgibson]

Ten, I think Ithaca's point is that the WY ranchers are asking for predator status, which will essentially allow them to shoot any wolf they see. The gubmint wants there to be some form of limitation on killing (hunting seasons and limits, perhaps?) and don't want to give the ranchers impunity. So, it logically follows that, because the WY ranchers are demanding more than the gubmint will allow, they're preventing a more moderate plan from being approved (such as hunting). I suppose the gubmint position is that they are either delisted or they're not; if they delist for one state they have to delist for them all.

<FONT COLOR="#800080" SIZE="1">[ 01-16-2004 11:42: Message edited by: dgibson ]</font>

 

[Ten Bears]

Since ID has almost enough wolves for what was required for the 3 state recovery. Why should ID have to wait for the other states to catch up? I see WY as being truthful in their plan. Would you rather they LIE? I didn't see anywhere in their plan that would call for all wolves to be listed a predators. There are areas for hunting, and other areas of protection.

 

[mtmiller]

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR> the state of Wyoming has failed to submit an adequate plan for protecting the animals if the federal government were to step aside <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Thanks Wyoming. I thought I was going to get away from addressing the wolf in my biological assessment.

 

[mtmiller]

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR> Why should ID have to wait for the other states to catch up? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Sucks doesn't it.

Very common with other species as well, black-tailed prairie dogs (candidate), mt. plovers (proposed), sage grouse (petitioned),...the list rolls on.